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[Myc]

I tried this and it works great!
The lazy man's cactus prep.

I started with 700 grams of fresh Trichocereus bridgesii
Slice like a cucumber
Cut slices into smaller pieces or chunks
Load into blender with a little water and puree to even consistency
Pour into Crock Pot and set on "low" setting
Ignore for 6 hours or more
Strain pulp out through a t-shirt
Reduce liquid with low heat and evaporation
Refrigerate, freeze, or consume.

Initial nausea is still an issue when using this method
But it is very effective in extracting the alkaloids - ;)
Very effective!

[Shadowlord]

Yeah, the tea works very well.
I haven't tried the Bridgesii yet but have had tea from San Pedro and From Peruvian Torch.
I didn't really have enough S.P. to do the job but the Tea from the P.Torch gave me the strongest Mescaline trip I have had in my limited experience.
I have also done the ISO extraction which is easier to take than drinking the tea, but you lose a lot of the experience that way.
If I am going to do Catus/Mescaline only, then I would have to say Tea is the way to go. If I have L around then I like to take some ISO tar and they mesh together great.
I have also noticed that encapsulated powder works very well too but it takes a lot of capsules and dehydrates the living daylights out of you.
It all boils down to how much nausea one experiences from the cacti. It doesn't bother me overmuch so Tea works very well for me.
But apparently some people have had a real rough time w/ it.:puke:


:cacti:

[Myc]

I think I prefer the tea to all other methods.
I like the full spectrum experience.
Never tried the T. peruvianus but I have some seedlings - maybe next year.

It took me over 24 hours to sober up enough to post responsibly.
What a beautiful and peaceful experience. Far and away better than any Vitamin A I've ever done!

The nausea usually passes in an hour or so and is well worth the results.

[cuts]

Yea two days ago i tried the tea, i wasn't full blown tripping but it was definately nice. What you guys say the best way to dry your cactus would be? I'm thinking of doing the iso extract

[Shadowlord]

I know what you mean about being better than vitamin A Myc!
I've found Mescaline to be much more Visual and it feels very warm and healing. Not to mention long lasting. I just have to eat more next time as I didn't eat throughout my strongest tea experience and it disrupted my appetite for the next couple of days.
I still love the focusing of the mind that Vitamin A brings which is why I tried mixing a dose of it w/ mescaline and the way they mesh together is just great.
But there is no doubt. The Cactus experience is one I truly enjoy.

:cacti::cacti:

I have a couple of Pedros, a small P.Torch that doesn't seem to be growing very quickly unlike the Pedros.
I am planning on adding some Bridgesii. I've been on the fence about them but you have decided me, Myc!
I also hope to get some L. Williamsii going in the not too distant future but have too many other irons in the fire right now.

[Myc]

Yea two days ago i tried the tea, i wasn't full blown tripping but it was definately nice. What you guys say the best way to dry your cactus would be? I'm thinking of doing the iso extract

I tried drying once for an Everclear extraction.
Big PITA - will never do that again.
My experience with T. pachanoi is much like you describe.
Not full blown - few visual distortions - but overall nice.
I've mixed pachanio and bridgesii with great results also.
Just thought I'd try the crock pot to avoid all the monitoring and stirring required with standard tea extraction.

Had a great time - peaked for a couple of hours
Strong rolling visuals
Was seeing hallucinations which appeared very real.
Snakes in the back yard, everything appeared as shifting, moving geometric patterns, overwhelming sense of warmth, peace, and contentment

[Oblivion]

Thanks for the crock pot idea Myc. Im gonna try that next time I make tea. Its time to pull my san pedros from the garden. Maybe this weekend I'll make some tea.

[golly]

Love the simplicity Myc...What was your ratio of water to cactus..?

[Raziel]

Tried this method and works great, I boil the cactus for 2hours and collect the liquid then chuck the cactus back in the pot, add fresh water then repeat 3-4 times then add all the liquid collected and boil down to a thick goo. It's best to use a old t-shirt and squeeze all the goo out of the cactus and add it to the liquid collected after each 2 hour boil. Quite hard when you have to use your hands and the cactus lumps are as hot as the earths core :lol:

[Myc]

Love the simplicity Myc...What was your ratio of water to cactus..?

The ratio was eyeballed.
I just put it in a blender and added water to 1/3 the volume of the pitcher. Already had the pitcher loaded with cactus chunks to about 3/4 the volume of the blender. Each 12" specimen required two blender runs to have it processed for the tea.

I've seen the idea of double boiling a couple of times today.
I can run an experiment. :)
Ever the saver of stuff, I have the pulp leftover and frozen from the batches of tea I made. :)
It was only cooked once for 6 hours.
I can test the efficiency of the first extraction by trying a second extraction. I'm curious to see if anything happens.

[Myc]

So it turns out that the first extraction is quite efficient at extracting all the alkaloids.
I cooked the leftover pulp from 2100g of fresh cacti.
Cooked it down and drank it.

I'm certainly wide awake so there are some slight effects
But no visuals or likewise.
Not worth repeating IMO.
I'll be composting the pulp after the first extraction from now on.

[rocketman]

Very interesting. The long crock pot cook replaces the need to pull 3 times over 3 hours. I would love to try this method only the texture would prevent it as it does with any cactus tea.

Myc, can you add a few pics? and maybe show a step by step of your methods?


archive material when finished.

[Myc]

First and foremost, I need to credit John Allen with this tek.
My only addition is the use of a slow cooker - and subsequent testing of the extracted pulp to determine extraction efficiency.

In making Trichocereus tea, first I've selected a specimen for cutting.
I chose this one due to etiolation which occured over a couple of days during the Winter last year.

Mark your cut to coincide with as many areoles as possible so as to increase your chances for as many offsets as possible.

Execute your cut quickly and decisively.

Trim cut if necessary and treat with a little sulfur to help the cactus fight off any infection. This will also help the cut dry more quickly and callous.

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[Myc]

Prep time: 30 min. from harvest to loading in cooker.

First I weigh the material.
I'm staying around the 700g range for my own comparison sake.

Slice and chop the cactus into chunks.

Load:
4 cups of chunks
1 cup of water into blender

Liquefy - don't overload the blender - your puree will expand significantly.

Load puree into crockpot.

Set the Crock Pot for "low" setting.
I don't exceed 180*F ( arbitrary number I pulled out of my ass - but it works).
If you're making tea for one, place the lid on the Crock Pot and ignore this for at least 6 hours. Overnight is fine. I imagine that 24 hours wouldn't hurt anything.
However, two batches of tea will fit in this pot.
As you can see, the puree resembles meringue.

Upon heating, the foamy "head" will dissipate leaving room for your other dose. This process takes awhile so I load the other batch into a ziplock back and the same effect is accomplished.


Next we'll get ready for the tea itself.

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[Myc]

After cooking the slurry for 6 hours or more in the slow cooker it's time to take it to the next step.
Line a bowl or pot with an old t-shirt.

Carefully pour the content of the slow cooker into the shirt.

Gather the outside edges of the t-shirt and begin squeezing while twisting the shirt at the same time.
CAUTION: The slurry is very hot - gloves are recommended or wait 'til it cools.

Place the filtered liquid in a large pan or pot on low heat and reduce the liquid further.

This process will take a couple of hours or longer depending on the amount of liquid.
Occasional monitoring is required.
Or, if you've got the guts, you can just drink this and skip the final step. I've done it many times and it works just fine. ;)

The finished product.

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[golly]

Thanx for the details, looks easy..I taste tested the remaining pulp to insure all the bitter goodies have been separated ..
So where ya gonna stick that syringe Myc...:lol:

[Myc]

So where ya gonna stick that syringe Myc...:lol:

To be honest, I was going to follow your method.
Adapt a piece of tubing to the syringe and plunge 'er up the 'ol wazoo.
Or skip the tubing and transfer to a 20 or 30 cc syringe for greater...ahem...dosing comfort. :)

My only reservation against this method is that you can't hold it - based upon your experience.
Seems you had a 7 hr experience dosing rectally where I peaked at 8 hours (total experience was at least 12 hrs heavy) dosing orally.
I wonder if oral ingestion is just the way to go since, if you don't puke, the body has to deal with the whole dose.

[mjshroomer]

I tried this and it works great!
The lazy man's cactus prep.

I started with 700 grams of fresh Trichocereus bridgesii
Slice like a cucumber
Cut slices into smaller pieces or chunks
Load into blender with a little water and puree to even consistency
Pour into Crock Pot and set on "low" setting
Ignore for 6 hours or more
Strain pulp out through a t-shirt
Reduce liquid with low heat and evaporation
Refrigerate, freeze, or consume.

Initial nausea is still an issue when using this method
But it is very effective in extracting the alkaloids - ;)
Very effective!

My pictorial method, posted at erowid and also here at mycotopia has 29 photographs of the step by step process which takes less than 2 and a half to three fo hours for preparing a one to one and a half pound cactus of San Pedro,

I shook not need to take six hours.

Slicing the cati properly and bl;ending it properly with the right anmount of luquid, boiling it down to 12 to sixteen ounce of goop and then straiing it takes three hours.

You should go to erowid or asked Hippie3 where the tek is poted here at mycotopia.

I have used that method since the mid 1970s and so have hundreds of others with delightful success..

mjshroomer

Remember, 29 photos of the process which takes a total of less than 3 hours to prepare.

Also, one should take 20 to 30 minutes to consume the drink. I have never had anyone vomit or get nauseated form my preparation and method of ingestion. There are ways to swallow a bitter substance without haveing to taste it if ypone knows the secret of not touching the tongue tot he t roof of ones mouth and then drinksing some juice or milk to kill any after taste.

A buig swallow, a break, a bif swallow a break.

Over and over for a 20 to 30 minute period of consumption.

The Indians of the Native American Churh, the peyotiest take a half an houer or longer to consume for to six to 8 buttons of peyote. IT is so the come on is slow so that it will not affect the mormalcy of the SNS.

mjshroomer

IF Hippie3 cannot locate thsi pictorial at Mycotopia, then go to erowid.org and see my method at this URL:

http://www.erowid.or...paration5.shtml

I would also like to point out that there were actualy 34 photos to the prepaparation and much more text of explanation. Erowid removed much for space.

However, I may laer add a entheogenic plant section to my shroom website inthe future with articles on other entheogenic and narcotic plants.

have a shroomy day