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#1 atitagain

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 01:25 PM

a FOAF sent me pics today of his bagged compost experiment.

4 kitty litter trays total in the experiment.

2 of which were cased right away and placed in the incubator.
the other 2 had to wait 4 days until he could buy more vermiculite!

anyway this is a pic of an UNcased tray prior to having the casing layer applied today.

although it seems all is going well, his next batch is going to be a coir/poo/verm mix. these trays are just straight POO with a bit of verm mixed in. they're heavy like a solid brick but colonization seems to be speedy!?! he told me they were spawned with 2 quart jars of organic rye berries a piece.

if anyone is interested, the bagged stuff is "organic composted cow manure" for less than $2.50 for a 40lb. a bag!

we'll see how it ultimately fruits though. THAT's the most important thing. stay tuned! he is doing this to try to find an acceptable way of using the store bought stuff, which a lot of pros seem to frown upon around here. unfortunately, for many people like my FOAF, it's all that is available locally.

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 03:34 PM

Cool..!
Do you know the brand name..?

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 03:43 PM

Is pasteurization or sterilization necessary with bagged compost? If not, i'm sold. That'll save tons of cash/time.

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 03:56 PM

For indoor growing i would pasteurize...Should be able to do a 40lbs in the oven in one run, although it might take 4-5 hours...

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 05:07 PM

"bagged compost rocks"

You won't think that come fruiting time.

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Posted 25 October 2008 - 05:17 PM

"bagged compost rocks"
You won't think that come fruiting time.


awwww :(

#7 atitagain

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:07 AM

sorry all, i've been away for the weekend....i'm not trying to ignore my post here!

well yesterday my FOAF moved 2 of the pre-cased kitty litter trays into the fruiting chamber. he will be sending me pics today to post of his setup. the 2 trays that got cased late will have to wait a couple more days in the incubator he says.

he has done some batches before with 'good' compost so he is knowledgeble enough to compare that with the results of this bagged stuff.

as i said earlier....this is just his experiment! no harm in trying huh? if fruiting sucks, the experiment will be repeated with a coir/verm/compost mix. as i said, he's doing it because it's all a lot of people have available to them.

pics coming later today....stay tuned!

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 11:11 AM

Yeah I agree at least with the black cow brand. It sucks. It fruited but they were small. You might want to leach it too. If you dont you will have a strong amonia smell.

"bagged compost rocks"

You won't think that come fruiting time.



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Posted 28 October 2008 - 12:39 PM

i am not sure of the brand but i'm pretty sure it's not black cow. i do know the stuff is not a major commercial brand and i think it comes from a large local (same state anyway) farm.

i will have to ask my FOAF the exact brand and get pics when i see him today.

it really dosen't have a strong ammonia smell though. slight....noticeable....but definitely not anything like the "fresh stuff".
even now after pasteurization it's not noticeable at all.

i know the pros knock the bagged compost for good reasons....but i'll never admit defeat!! :eusa_snoo (until poor fruiting anyway)

perhaps my FOAF is just being naive...

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 02:11 PM

I love bagged manure

moodoo (non-sponsor link deleted. Brand name is there, do a search)

It works awesome :headbang:

no messy clean-up or smells
just add water
stores easily for long periods of time

heres some results

http://mycotopia.net...ek-im000332.jpg

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 02:19 PM

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#12 atitagain

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 02:20 PM

oh my!

i'm sure my friend will find that encouraging! thanks!
the experiment forges ahead......

#13 mushhut

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 04:46 PM

Bagged cow compost has worked well for me too. I use the bagged stuff in the winter when I run out of hpoo.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 08:42 PM

pics of my friend's setup. if there's anything he should change for improved results i know he's open to suggestion...

air cycles 20min every 2 hrs.
lights (flouro)4on\4off all day.
manual misting several times daily with h20/light peroxide solution.
temps kept ~70 (a bit colder at night)
substrate/casing is as described above
day 2 in FC...

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 09:38 PM

ehhhh...... flush #1

solid brick-o-poo! colonization took too long IMHO. (read date on last post) experiment will be repeated with coir/poo next time hopefully with faster results!

on the brighter side though, the casings double as a self defense bludgeoning weapon!

not too shabby though huh??

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Posted 06 November 2008 - 11:34 PM

looks pretty good!

at least the next flushes should come on regular schedule.

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Posted 19 November 2008 - 09:55 PM

Psss, nothin' wrong with that! :thumbup:

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 07:52 AM

score another success for bagged poo:flash:

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 09:35 AM

score another success for bagged poo:flash:


while it successfully fruited, i wouldn't run out and buy up all the bagged compost u can.. those results, while there, aren't sought after by bulk growers.

that will work for the average at home hobbyist though.

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Posted 20 November 2008 - 05:45 PM

while it successfully fruited, i wouldn't run out and buy up all the bagged compost u can.. those results, while there, aren't sought after by bulk growers.

that will work for the average at home hobbyist though.


I don't think you should assume to know what all growers search after, I think that he had a kick ass flush and that if i were a bulk grower, i would be very happy with those results. Full canopies and dense pinset are not guaranteed when using non-bagged poo.

Results can vary from projet to project even with all factors remaining constant.

Since you intone to know what a grower wants, please tell me your special secrets, What do you suggest we should do to get " results...sought after by bulk growers" ?

I have seen dense pinsets and full canopys with bagged dehydrated manure and would choose to use it any day over fresh poo because of its great performance and ease of use and storage.

see below for a bagged poo bulk project


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