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#21 jay9

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 06:19 PM

after a moment of thinking about it....start a dunk in the fridge now. Its been two 2.5 weeks. They have to be thirsty.

Then come back and we'll discuss the rest of the questions ask here. :)

why would you say in the fridge? i thought cold shocking proved to be a compleate myth and it dose nothing benificial

#22 CoyoteMesc

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 06:29 PM

The fridge isn't suggest to cold shock. At cooler temps the bacterial infection risk lowers.

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 07:02 PM

I've have done as CM has said. but with three cakes as u see above. I did put the cakes in the fridge for a 12 hour dunk. Here's what i did next let me know if i should change anything :eusa_clap

#1 Get u some coir in a bowl

#2 boil you some water

#3 pour water into mixing bowl with coir let sit for 30 mins to cool

#4 get your cakes out of the fridge :headbang:

# sorry forgot to take pick of this but u add verm to the cooled wet coir and mix well i went for a 50/50 mix :rasta:

#5 make sure mix is not to wet make u a bed in the jar lid and case the top of the cake with a little layer.. Put them in your FC

# cakes have minor bruisings from the dunk but i have found these little buggers to be stronger than foaf expected!:amazed: They will grow back strong!

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#24 Gladiatrix

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 07:07 PM

When should i start fanning:bow:?

#25 CoyoteMesc

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 07:24 PM

Once a day should be plenty til you see those other knots become pins.
Just open the chamber and give it a good quick hard fan and shut it back up.

You will see those dunked cakes become really happy looking the next couple of days.
And see pins in about a week to ten days. ;)

#26 Gladiatrix

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 02:28 AM

48 hours after dunk RH 99% temp 74 degrees fanning once daily...

should i change anything?

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#27 bluethumb

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 02:40 AM

i'd mic or cook the verm myself but i do like to overkill sometimes

#28 Gladiatrix

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 03:41 AM

?

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 03:43 AM

You should fan when you put them into the fruiting chamber to help prevent contaminates from taking hold in anaerobic conditions, but SWIM likes to wait until they see pins even before introducing them to the fruiting chamber..

#30 CoyoteMesc

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 07:09 AM

They look like they recovered from the dunk nicely. Good job
I wouldnt change a thing.

I thought you had knots on some cakes? What happen to that? Was it a false alert?

#31 Gladiatrix

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 12:01 PM

This is one of the 2 cakes i didnt dunk out of the five. to me it looks like it is bruised due to drying out. other opinions please:eusa_clap also sorry that my camera is so blurry! but it looks way bluer than green! help :horse:

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#32 Gladiatrix

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Posted 01 November 2008 - 09:50 PM

:eusa_sileIts been 78 + hours since the dunk, when should i be seeing pins:eusa_sile
its making me sad :thumbdown:

#33 chill

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 02:50 AM

conditions to induce pinning:

1. 100% colonization
2. expose to light
3. increase fresh air exchange
4. drop temperatures to approx 70 - 72F
5. increase humidity to approx 100%
6. dunk
7. DEC
8. wait approx. 3-7 days

If you are doing all of the above and not getting pinning then maybe you have a rare non-fruiting strain. In which case it doesn't hurt to consider spawning to bulk.

I mean, after all they're not going anywhere anyways.

#34 Gladiatrix

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 08:54 AM

thank u chill! ive been doing the above for 3 weeks lol!:horse:

#35 EmmisonJ

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 03:20 PM

how's it coming?

#36 cherrylimeade

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 05:10 PM

fanning is your #1 pinning trigger.
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#37 CoyoteMesc

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 06:17 PM

fanning is your #1 pinning trigger.


That is wrong. If that was the number one reason, invitro would be a myth and never done.

Purging of the co2 is a factor. Which in many cases..esp in Gladiatrix's case, simply birthing them from the jars and putting them in the fruiting chamber is plenty.
Fanning once a day is plenty. Excessive fanning will only dry casings/cakes.

Lowering temps also is a contributing factor along with light. Light being the least important.

Even with plenty of FAE, light, and lowered temps....dry casings./cakes will not fruit mature fruit bodies and in many cases will not fruit at all.

Ive seen cakes shrivel down and die because lack of moisture and never see one hyphal knot.

Fanning is over rated until pinning is noticed.

Lesson learned here....IF you plan to fruit cake bodies, dont birth until you see knots...

#38 Agar Tha-Sporable

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Posted 07 November 2008 - 06:54 PM

if youve fanned,given them light,and kept your humidity up then its only a matter of time,and with the dunk you have replenished the water its been using but it needs recovery time.so just be patient and you WILL see a pinset in the near future:eusa_whis

#39 Gladiatrix

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Posted 10 November 2008 - 12:09 PM

Well boys and girls the wait has ended! I'm so excited :eusa_danc!
Doin the pin dance! :cacti::cacti::cacti:

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Posted 10 November 2008 - 12:12 PM

forgot to put the pics up lol

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