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#1 don't know

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 01:56 PM

PF TEK CAKE - DUNKING v. DEC TEK (double ended casing)

I did the dunk tek a few
times and was not impressed.

I seem to remember this.
first, when I put my post first flush cake
into the large mug with water, I had to cover
the mug because the cake floats. It's waterproof!
The cake was light in weight and needed a weight
to keep it under water.

The next day, I would take the lid off and the
cake is still floating, showing a minimum intake
of water. I was never impressed with the consequential
fruiting.

When I do the DEC (double ended casing) tek to post
first flush cakes - sometimes I get second fruitings just as
big as great first flushes. The DEC TEK acts adding water
to the cake (mycelium drinks water) as the cake readies
itself for another flush, and when
the flush occurs, the cake is heavy with water.
When I did my biz, I always did
the DEC tek for at least 3 flushes and sometimes I would do
a 4rth if needed. Dunking is kind of cool but it is no
match for the DEC tek.

And if you people want to know the truth about this, you
need to get scientific and put it to the test. With several
cakes, each set dedicated to dunking or the DEC tek.

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#2 Hippie3

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 02:14 PM

i added a poll,
allowing multiple votes
as i both dunk and de case.
we'll see what the people think...

btw
easy way is to dunk in the jar, lid on.
flotation prob solved.
we found that cakes typically gained at least 10 grams of water weight
from a dunk, often more if it was fairly dry.
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Posted 21 October 2005 - 02:31 PM

I've dunked my cakes before and find gallon size ziplock bags work great.
I shoot them with a syringe of sterile water to hydrate now. Then I'm not going through so much vermiculite.

#4 Texas_Bob

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 02:50 PM

Dunking and DEC work for me.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:04 PM

yeah, there should be a choice for both dunking and DEC...I do a dunk and then DEC and it works great.

#6 Hippie3

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:29 PM

it IS multiple choice,
you'll notice if you read carefully,
so you can vote for more than one method.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:30 PM

Yeah i do both unless cake looks too moist

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:52 PM

I dunk and DEC at the same time. I find that it retains the most moisture.

#9 Hillbilly

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 04:56 PM

Me, too- Dunk and DE case.

#10 rockawayrooms

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 06:13 PM

Yeah i do both unless cake looks too moist

Ditto!

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 06:19 PM

I had to pick DEC but I kinda do a wierd combo. A custard dish about 1/2 full or a little more of wet perlite (saves on vermic) then fill the rest with wet vermic. I don't dunk but I do give them a good soaking between flushes. Works great with very little delay between flushes.

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 07:04 PM

that would be wicking,
option number 3.
should have voted for both ways

#13 mindovermycelia

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 07:57 PM

i put both dunk and de, but I sometimes dunk and roll cuz its easier
sometimes I don't do either cuz I'm lazy and its alot of work imo
would rather just let em go as of late
but for max yield, using both is the way to go

#14 Felix

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Posted 21 October 2005 - 10:22 PM

Dunking up to 18Hrs before the first flush + DEC and rolled in ver/coir, This gives the cake a rougher surface and cubes seem to pin off edges better, useing coffee in the dunk seems to help get more clusters.

Harvest pic is off one pint cake.

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 07:24 AM

Thought I should mention, as the cakes get into their 3rd or 4th flush I often stop dunking, out of pure laziness, and simply reapply fresh DEC's after any subsequent flushes after 3 or 4. Depending on how lazy I am.

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 08:30 AM

i always dunk between flushes. in a jar. the lid holds the cake under water. in the fridge at least 24 hours. dec makes a mess.

#17 Hippie3

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 08:33 AM

i consider rolling a cake in verm to be a minor variant of DE casing,
not an independent tek per se.

#18 don't know

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 01:55 PM

i consider rolling a cake in verm to be a minor variant of DE casing,
not an independent tek per se.


Well I guess the writing is on the wall - everybody just throws
the kitchen sink in. The whole point is just to rehydrate the cake
to max during the inbetween fruiting cycles and there are many ways
to do it -

Inner reservoir Tek - very tricky but incredible when it works

drinking straw insert tek - I had a photo of that someone sent me years
ago with an awesome fruiting from 7 PF cakes with gorgeous unmutant
PF classics - no casing at all.

The DEC tek - my favorite because there is no trickyness to it - you just
soak the verm and that's it - you see what you got.

Rolling the cake in wet verm - never tried that but in combo with the DEC, should be incredible.

and on and on. So really, there is no point to the poll because as HIP says,
there are many ways to skin a chicken.

Thanx for the input and updating MYCOTOPIA's rebroadcast of my complete
basic PF TEK.

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 04:02 PM

crap, i forgot the inner reservoir tek,
i'll edit the poll to add it now.

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Posted 22 October 2005 - 08:55 PM

I have not read all of the replys to this, but in response to the original question/s... I do a post flush dunk for 24 hours. If you put the cakes with the smaller tapered side down (or the top as it is), more of the cake is under water. After removing from dunk, DEC with moist verm for best results. Just rolling them in dry verm is ok, but I now moisten the verm before applying to cakes. Always satisfied...




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