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#1 mjshroomer

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 08:20 PM

As noted before, I forst found this mushroom and gave Dr. Guzman a collection of specimens back in 1984 or so. Last fall I found a major large collection and small about onepound of freshies growing near Ballard, Seattle.

Yesterday I found a memory card I forgot about and it had 72 imges on it. So here are six more images of thsi cool mushroom.

Observe the stems which broke. I spit them with my fingernails and because the cap and stem are so slippery, when you break it, it causes the damaged stem to split like splinters do. Even trying to lift fresh specimens from the ground is almost impossible because your fingers slide up the slippery stems and caps.

Six Imgs, and you can see bluing developing where the stems were spit and also on the edges of some of the caps. And in one there is lots of exposed mycelia.

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623914

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623909

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623909

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623909

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623909

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623909

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 08:26 PM

:kewl:

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 01:03 AM

those are absolutely gorgeous mushrooms MJ. thank you!

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 03:23 AM

Gorgeous pics. I especially like the bluing in the second pic. Wow.

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 02:08 PM

I love these mushrooms! They're probably my favorite species.



liberty caps are my favorites, but i have not has any for six years.

I also like my species, P. samuiensis which is very close to P. mexicana. IT is the only species found outside of Mexico related directly to P. mexicana.

now Guzman has two new species in Mexico related to P. stuntzii.

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 05:12 PM

I like the looks of that mycelium. Looks real healthy. Did you, or have you spread some more chips to make sure these keep going? Any way to get a spore print of that? Please?

I will be hitting the coast up for sure this year on the seach for the Libs. I have not tried them as of yet and cannot wait from what mj has been saying about them being his fav, that goes along way in my book. I have plenty of access to alot of horse ranches and friends that have them. So I am wondering if we should get them propagating around this area a little more.

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 05:46 PM

I like the looks of that mycelium. Looks real healthy. Did you, or have you spread some more chips to make sure these keep going? Any way to get a spore print of that? Please?

I will be hitting the coast up for sure this year on the seach for the Libs. I have not tried them as of yet and cannot wait from what mj has been saying about them being his fav, that goes along way in my book. I have plenty of access to alot of horse ranches and friends that have them. So I am wondering if we should get them propagating around this area a little more.



Liberty caps often grow more in tall rank grass and other wild grasses. they may appear in lawns also and open fields. They grow in manured ground but not directly out of manure. They love the tall grasses but are noticible in sheep sheared crops of meadows where the sheep are the mowers.

Thye grow with their mycelia attached to the roots of wild grasses.

Another similar species is Psilocybe strictipes, also previoussly known as P. callosa.

In the late 1950s Agaricales mycoligst and taxonnomic expert in the Agaricales accidently misidentified P. strictipes as being similar to P. baeocystis. They are very different shrooms. That error led to about 2 dozen field guides or more mis-labeling the Baeocystis taller ones as P. strictipes and provided warnings that it was dangerous and had caused the death of two children in the 1960s. However, polaroid images I was able to obtain from the physcians in charge of attempting to treat and relieve the deadly symtoms to one of the two children (one in California and one in Washington), showed the mushrooms responsible as Psilocybe cyanescens. Even Gary Menser's field guide and Peter Stafford's Psychedelic Encyclopedia both expressed warning and caution about the P. baeocystis as the cause of a death in two children.

later, many of us, including me were able to correctly identify the error which Paul Stamets finally wrote in a three page discussion in his "psilocybin mushrooms of the world."

P. strictipes also is known to grow wild in open fields in Oregon and in golf courses along the Oregon coast with P. semilanceata. Sometimes in Seattle, some parks, sprayed with liquid fertilizers produce a few years growth of P. semilanceata.

In 1976, I picked them in Woodland Lawn in the Seattle arboretum. They also grew in Marymore Park in Redland and in fields along the highway where there were no cattle and on several sidewalk Boeing lawns at Southcenter Shopping Mall in Tukwilla.

I last picked some six yars ago i Comox Valley in B.C., Canada with a friend I met over the Shroomery.

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 07:50 PM


Three More Photos of P. cyanofriscosa

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233708466

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233708466

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233708466

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Posted 03 February 2009 - 10:25 PM

They look like young deadly Galerina x Azurescens


Actually they really do not look like young P. azurescens or the deadly Galerina's.

The cyanofriscosas are slimey as hell and the stems are very hollow and brittle and split and shatter into splinters when broken.

The caps of azures are pointed and conical in the young with a definite umbo (protrude) or nipple on the top of the cap, whereas the P. cyanofriscosa cap is round and slimey from the mucous membrane or sticky pellicle layer of clear skin over the cap. Also, the stem of an azurescens has the same context of the stem of P. cyanescens. Very meaty and solid and sturdy. while the cyanofriscosas splinter into several pieces. As seen in image number 2 above in the first post of the thread.

Galerina, do not have a white stem, but one that is scaley and they have a veil remnant attached to the stem just below the cap where the cap opens and the veil remains and it is usually a white veil, while P. azurescens and P. cyanofriscosa have no veil or veil remnants present on the stems, and again, the stems of all three species are different in subtance and texture, and both azures and cyanofriscosas are pure white and easily bruise blue, but are different in their textures. Galerina stems are also rubbery in texture.

Eventualy the cap of the Galerina which has no nipple or umbo becomes convex to almost flat in some varieties and others convex retaining an incurved margin.

Picture of P. azurescens in various stages of their growth and development

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233718105

Galerina autumnalis

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233717647

Specimens of G. autumnalis in various stages of their growth and development

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233717647

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Posted 22 December 2020 - 10:57 PM

 

I love these mushrooms! They're probably my favorite species.



liberty caps are my favorites, but i have not has any for six years.

I also like my species, P. samuiensis which is very close to P. mexicana. IT is the only species found outside of Mexico related directly to P. mexicana.

now Guzman has two new species in Mexico related to P. stuntzii.

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wasn't tampanensis and galindoi both discovered outside of mexico?



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Posted 03 January 2021 - 01:26 AM

 

 

I love these mushrooms! They're probably my favorite species.



liberty caps are my favorites, but i have not has any for six years.

I also like my species, P. samuiensis which is very close to P. mexicana. IT is the only species found outside of Mexico related directly to P. mexicana.

now Guzman has two new species in Mexico related to P. stuntzii.

mjshroomer

 

 

wasn't tampanensis and galindoi both discovered outside of mexico?

 

 

 

Yes, Psilocybe tampanensis was discovered in Florida but is much more common in the Atlanta area.   The new species Guzman published turned out to be much closer to Psilocybe zapotecorum than P. stuntzii.

 

There's a new Psilocybe discovered in Australia recently that is closely related to but distinct from P. samuiensis.  It doesn't have a name yet.   Psilocybe galindoi was discovered in Jalisco and is a synonym of Psilocybe mexicana, however what is going around the mushroom community as Psilocybe galindoi is P. tampanensis.   


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Posted 07 January 2021 - 12:11 AM

I love these mushrooms! They're probably my favorite species.


liberty caps are my favorites, but i have not has any for six years.

I also like my species, P. samuiensis which is very close to P. mexicana. IT is the only species found outside of Mexico related directly to P. mexicana.

now Guzman has two new species in Mexico related to P. stuntzii.

mjshroomer

wasn't tampanensis and galindoi both discovered outside of mexico?


Yes, Psilocybe tampanensis was discovered in Florida but is much more common in the Atlanta area. The new species Guzman published turned out to be much closer to Psilocybe zapotecorum than P. stuntzii.

There's a new Psilocybe discovered in Australia recently that is closely related to but distinct from P. samuiensis. It doesn't have a name yet. Psilocybe galindoi was discovered in Jalisco and is a synonym of Psilocybe mexicana, however what is going around the mushroom community as Psilocybe galindoi is P. tampanensis.
Ahh i see. So there is no galindoi, but tampensis is actually its own species. I have heard the exact opposite of that so many times, but considering this is coming from the mushroom man himself, i have no doubt it is fact. I was just pointing out that psilocybe samuiensis isn't the only mushroom directly related to mexicana found outside of mexico. Also since galindoi is mexicana and it was found in the united states, that is another one found outside Mexico, though it isn't related to mexicana, it is mexicana. I think there are others as well, but i may be wrong, but either way that was not an accurate statement.

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Posted 03 March 2021 - 01:12 AM

As noted before, I forst found this mushroom and gave Dr. Guzman a collection of specimens back in 1984 or so. Last fall I found a major large collection and small about onepound of freshies growing near Ballard, Seattle.

Yesterday I found a memory card I forgot about and it had 72 imges on it. So here are six more images of thsi cool mushroom.

Observe the stems which broke. I spit them with my fingernails and because the cap and stem are so slippery, when you break it, it causes the damaged stem to split like splinters do. Even trying to lift fresh specimens from the ground is almost impossible because your fingers slide up the slippery stems and caps.

Six Imgs, and you can see bluing developing where the stems were spit and also on the edges of some of the caps. And in one there is lots of exposed mycelia. 

 

WHY DO THE LINKS TO THE PICuYRES RETURN THE PAGE TO THE INDEX??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????a

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623914

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623909

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623909

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623909

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623909

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1233623909

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