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DMT freebase ---> DMT fumarate


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#1 AndyLandy420

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 05:41 PM

swim prepared some DMT fumarate using the following method.

approx 2.2g fumaric acid is dissolved in a minimum of acetone, acetone has been dried using anhydrous MgSO4.

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6g perfect glass dmt freebase is dissolved in a minimum of anhydrous acetone.

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a small slosh of fasa is dumped into freebase solution, picture is taken just a split second after.

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all of the fasa is then poured swiftly into the freebase solution, clouds heavily on contact, no stirring or swirling, just dumped in and let it sit, 30 seconds in.

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about 3 minutes later

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after about 30 minutes

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swim has never seen crystals that nice form that quickly, very impressed.
he then added another few drops of fasa to look for more clouding, no clouding at all, its done. he will remove that acetone and wash one or more times with fresh dry acetone to remove excess fumaric acid.

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Edited by vinz, 09 February 2009 - 10:57 PM.

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#2 AndyLandy420

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 05:43 PM

shit, a little help from a mod showing the pics. thank ya much.

#3 uncleknuckles2000

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 08:12 PM

As per usual, you are my fuckin' hero.

#4 Snake bite

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 11:38 AM

Lovely! From what SWIM understand, you do this to the DMT to make it injectable?

#5 AndyLandy420

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 01:23 PM

Lovely! From what SWIM understand, you do this to the DMT to make it injectable?



there are any number of reasons to make fumarate salts, they are more stable and therefore last longer, they can be snorted with much less agony than snorting freebase, they can be taken sublingually, rectally, with dmso absorbtion through the skin, and yes intraveniously.

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 10:47 PM

how does one admin with dmso?
havent had much luck
applying it to skin (even large areas)

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 10:57 PM

shit, a little help from a mod showing the pics. thank ya much.


cool pics! ur spice looks nice

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 11:06 PM

Started with 6g, finished with what Andy?
Thanks

#9 extrememetal43

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 01:09 AM

Probably 7.5 to 8 grams. the salt is heavier than the freebase!

#10 AndyLandy420

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 03:51 AM

how does one admin with dmso?
havent had much luck
applying it to skin (even large areas)


never tried it so i cant tell ya.

Started with 6g, finished with what Andy?
Thanks


not sure yet, foaf says its evappin, ill let you know.

#11 AndyLandy420

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 06:27 PM

Started with 6g, finished with what Andy?
Thanks



the final air dried weight is 7.6g, foaf is going to dessicate to see if it drops any more, foafs doubts it will as its already crunchy crusty powder.
the theoretical yield from 6g freebase is 7.85g fumarate. foaf went all out with washing so he is tickled with 96% yield. foaf did 3 room temp acetone washes and 2 anhydrous hot ISO washes, simmered in iso (mostly dissolved) then freeze precipped and filtered. an attemp to crystalize out of water didnt turn out well, it oxidised ever so slighty, just a very VERY light subtle yellow in the right light, not a big deal but it could have been avoided and foaf will be sure to not make that mistake again. no crystals form from water evap, clear rock hard syruppy goo is all that remains, must be painstakingly chipped up, and smushed/cracked every few hours before it even resembles powder. foaf will not involve water in ANY capacity next time around.

#12 Rhyno

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 08:28 PM

As always, Excellent Work!

#13 witchdr11

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Posted 12 February 2009 - 10:21 PM

Nice job! Knowledge is powerful.

#14 AndyLandy420

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Posted 14 February 2009 - 12:02 AM

Knowledge is powerful.

amen to that.

to anyone interested, dessication removed about 100mg worth of water weight before it reached a constant (truly dry) weight. not much but nice to know, it was open air evapped in a region of pretty low atmospheric humidity, anyone evapping in high humidity may want to look into a quick and dirty dessication chamber.

#15 damiana

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 02:39 AM

can this tek be done with naphtha?

#16 AndyLandy420

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 02:56 AM

can this tek be done with naphtha?

highly doubt it, naptha is non polar and i believe fumaric acid is polar, meaning they dont mix.

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 03:02 AM

hahaha, wow dude.

you never cease to amaze! :amazed:

jeez Andy, you are the man, for real! :love: :bow:

that is beauty, bro,
straight beauty!
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thanks!!

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Posted 26 February 2009 - 06:08 AM

the most beautiful snowflakes i've ever seen:amazed::bow: i wish i could do this once:D

#19 la_pro

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 02:11 AM

got a couple questions, what to use as the fumerate (not familiar with what it is), and what does drying mean, like drying the acetone?

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 02:24 AM

Amazing Andy :bow:




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