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#1 Ra_shroom

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Posted 30 May 2005 - 05:53 PM

I have a cake that I have isolated, that has one shroom with a tiny head, about 2 inches long, and six other ones of various length, all less than 1 inch, and all very skinny, with hardly no heads.

They haven't shown any growth in almost a full week, none at all. I took one little abort off, but the others look healthy, just won't grow at all.

Should I take these off and dunk, or possible just inject a couple of syringes of water into the cake?

Any other ideas?

#2 Lazlo

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Posted 30 May 2005 - 07:59 PM

You can try a water injection, but a week is a while for no growth. If the heads of mushrooms start to darken, pick the cake clean and dunk it for the next flush.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 06:20 AM

Thanks Laz, I think I'll just pick it, and dunk it overnight in the fridge. Or should I go 24 hours, seeing as how you think it's a water shortage causing the failed growth?

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 06:33 AM

24 hour dunk is pretty standard

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 06:33 AM

btw
what is the cake in,
terrarium ? humidity level ?

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 06:08 PM

This winter I had a few cakes with shrooms on them that didnot grow for over a week, then one day they would start to break the veil.

Temp at that time was a round 60 degrees or colder in the house. (we are poor)

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 06:54 PM

In a separate tub about 4 times the size of the cake. I fan with the lid three times daily and mist the insides at the same time.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 06:54 PM

When I say the mushrooms are small, I mean spaghetti thin, with matchhead size heads, except for the one.

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Posted 31 May 2005 - 07:29 PM

i'd say you container is too small, the co2 could be killing the pins... but mushrooms grow well invitro with little or no air exchange... so i don't know.

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Posted 20 November 2005 - 03:22 PM

first time posting, foaf first time decided to go aginst the norm advice and try a casing. rye berries with straight verm casing in rubbermaid with little perlite and tropicaire exachanger for rh. casing was doing great and began to pin, when foaf saw this he also noticed casing pullng away from sides of casing tray and thought was not enough water in casing. foaf injected sterilized water into casing to give more moisture, and ever since pins have stopped growing. it has been two days and caps have not turned black so does not think have aborted but very little or no new growth. substrate dpeth is 3-4" and casing layer 1" and top and bottom. strain is treasure coast. if anybody has any advice pleas let me know

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 01:35 AM

Ok so I screwed up and used a clear container for my casing with nothing around the sides, so of course now I have an abundance of side pins. I've never had this problem before so I need some answers to a few questions:

1. Will this drawrf my shrooms or will they continue to grow upward as they have started and continue up through the casing layer, which most all seem to be only a half inch to an inch below? I think it will be alright but I am unexperienced in this occurence.

2. Is it safe to go on and remove the casing layer to promote more pins or just best to leave alone, let flush, then trash the casing layer and place in a different non-clear container, case, and start anew with the same?

3. Besides reducing the amount of my flush, can this have the potential to cause other problems, i.e. anything to jeopardize my babies' health and development?

Any answers are greatly welcomed.

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 03:53 PM

Side pins are pretty common and normal because the mushrooms grow off the ends of the mycelial threads. Thats why you'll see 'fairy rings' in nature. As long as they have room to grow upward into an open space then they should be fine.

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 04:25 PM

It's all good Trip. Just consider it a partial invitro grow. You should be able to harvest the side shrooms with little effort, and your yield will most likely not be affected.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 12:30 AM

Thanks captainmax and waylitjim. I was kinda thinking along the lines of invitro when I first noticed them. But now there are like many many more forming way below the surface layer that I don't think are ever gonna make it through. All in all it should be okay right? I mean some are like 2 1/2 to 3 inches down. I guess I'm just paranoid.

Oh and the grow is some orissa india using just three waylitjim pan cyan tek cakes, and I must say it works wonders for cubes too! I have so many pins and they look like they are gonna be some monsters if they develop alright which is a concern because there isn't much space for them down there.

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Posted 06 July 2006 - 04:12 PM

My new hobo bags have began showing small pins about 3 days ago.

See: http://mycotopia.net...5716#post275716

The bags consist of cow poop/coir spawned from WBS with multispore KSSS. The pins are mostly round, fat little guys, and they dont seem to be getting any size to them. I figured them to be 3 or 4 times as big by this time...

sev suggested that I mist them, so I began misting last night. I open the bags for air at least 3-5 times a day.

Do you think these look bad for arround 3 days of pinning?

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Posted 06 July 2006 - 04:29 PM

Looks pretty good to me!Did you dunk them?I've learned that it helps to do a 12 hr dunk to get moisture back in the cakes!GOOD LUCK!!:dance:

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Posted 06 July 2006 - 04:34 PM

those are only three days old?? looks good to me also. i bet those fuckers are nice and dense too. from my experience, the faster the shroom grows, the more hollow the stems are going to be... the slower they grow, the more dense they are... just be patient with them... they look healthier than me. lol KSSS is a pretty warped strain to begin with... kinda like the PE strain is. :)

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#18 Lazlo

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Posted 06 July 2006 - 05:18 PM

That looks great! This strain will provide some shorter, yet really dense and fat fruit. It's a fun strain and a personal favorite for me.

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Posted 06 July 2006 - 05:20 PM

thanks guys! the bags arent 3 ays old, the pins are 3 days old. They do look like they will be fat for sure.

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Posted 06 July 2006 - 05:30 PM

They look healthy SM..That is a bit slow but maybe just the strain ...A dry substrate is the only thing i can think of ,,,Proly be fine though...




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