Anyone for Aya?
Posted 21 November 2005 - 06:57 PM
Posted 21 November 2005 - 07:20 PM
the best trips i have had have been on aya, and when i made it out of chacruna and caapii it tasted like slightly bitter tea.
but pot and shrooms work every time.
Posted 21 November 2005 - 07:37 PM
Try going back to rue and mimosa for a while, then vine and mimosa. There is loads of valuable experiences and learning to be had with those combos. I don't care that they aren't traditional. Rue and mimosa are very valuable plants in their own right and shouldn't be seen as second-class ingredients. I started with vine and leaves yet learned plenty from rue and mimosa later on which in turn helped me with brewing vine and leaves.
Hopefully sucess with them may give you back some confidence and lead you back to vine and leaves, or maybe you will be happy enough with the analogues. Good luck, bro!
Posted 21 November 2005 - 09:02 PM
Posted 21 November 2005 - 09:19 PM
Ultra simple and reliable recipie for beginners:
1. Grind rue in coffee grinder
2. hammer some mimosa to soften it, break it up by hand, grind like above.
3. Sieve mimosa through a fine sieve (wire coffee filter is ideal)
4. Mix rue powder with some water, drink the lot
5. Mix mimosa powder with water, drink the lot
rue dose: 1.5-2g , mimosa 8-10g (pre-sieve weight). Drink slowly to lessen chance of puking.
Posted 21 November 2005 - 09:51 PM
Posted 21 November 2005 - 09:57 PM
i myself still prefer the caapi vine and viridis leaves,
but i often toss in a bit of rue just be be sure i get enough
MAOI activity, and often some chaliponga [Diplopterys cabrerana] too
again i like to use multiple kinds/sources in case any one ingredient is weak.
Posted 21 November 2005 - 10:13 PM
Posted 21 November 2005 - 11:47 PM
Posted 21 November 2005 - 11:58 PM
Oh man, the vomiting.
Posted 22 November 2005 - 07:42 AM
Hippie3, how much Viridis leaf weight do you typically use for a single dose of ayahuasca if you don't put any chaliponga in it?
at least 30 g of viridis leaves in one dose
but i never brew a one-dose batch,
minimum of 2 'doses' at a time brewed,
again to offset possibility of low strength ingredients
that way if one is weak i can double dose
Posted 22 November 2005 - 12:33 PM
Beginners might be better starting with 5-6 g mimosa. It is hard stuff to get used to. Learning to drink it without hurling takes practise. Then there may be some trouble getting the trip to kick in, and dealing with transient nausea and puking later in the trip. Also panic and dehydration, and preparing your self and environment for tripping. All these basics have to be learned before you can work with aya properly. Trips will be highly variable until then.
Its like growing shrooms. You need practice and experience before you get consistent results. Luckily the results are well worth all the trouble. Unfortunately you won't realise that until you get your first proper trip. You have to trust the people like me who recommend it that it is the best stuff ever.
Posted 22 November 2005 - 06:56 PM
i love aya, but it's a bitch to get it to work. i mean, you spend all day cutting up the shit, boiling the shit, straining the shit, boiling down the shit and then you could still get a dud. disapointing:(
not to mention fasting for a day or 2 and gettin a dud!!!!!
Posted 22 November 2005 - 07:08 PM
Posted 23 November 2005 - 12:48 AM
it didnt' taste bad at all. like tea and cream. no nausea, no vomiting, no trip.
oh well, ONWARD MEN!!
Posted 23 November 2005 - 05:29 AM
I used the gelatine method once and it worked brilliantly. High potency and fairly easy to drink. But I only added it to the hot jurema brew at the start of reduction.
Get rue and mimosa working properly first. Preparing a potent dose is only the first step of several in getting a strong trip.
Posted 23 November 2005 - 08:11 AM
There is no need to fast for any more than a few hours before dosing...
i like to dose in the AM,
before breaking fast.
fasting is not required at all,
just observe a few minor diet restrictions
for a few hours after splash-down
and you're good.
Posted 23 November 2005 - 06:10 PM
Drinkers who used to be here (or maybe still are):
There may be a few others but its still not many.:eusa_booh
Posted 23 November 2005 - 06:58 PM
i'm talking about fasting from the meth.hehehe
There is no need to fast for any more than a few hours before dosing. It is best to eat only light food earlier in the day that is quickly digested. Then the stomach is fairly empty when dosing.
(skullfarmer goes in search of light bulb)