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#1 MurCurY

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Posted 22 November 2005 - 07:51 PM

I'm looking to get some autoclavable bags for bulk substrate. I'm looking at 2 different ones....here they are from sporeworks.
Large Autoclavable Gusseted Bulk Spawn Bags
http://sporeworks.co...48&cat=0&page=2

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Large Autoclavable Gusseted Bulk Spawn Bags w/ Self-Healing Injector Site
http://sporeworks.co...50&cat=0&page=2

What would be the difference between the 2? Any input on either? I'll probably be using grain as a starter substrate and spawn to bulk from rye so i'm assuming get the cheaper ones....

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Posted 22 November 2005 - 08:00 PM

I prefer the ones with out a self-sealin injector site cuz they are cheaper, just need to take a little extra care when inoculating them by syringe. Currenlty I only use them for sterilizing 50/50+ casing soil, as I have found thet reusing large mason jars is more cost efficient in the long run when makin grain spawn.

How big is your presurre cooker?

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Posted 22 November 2005 - 08:19 PM

i'd be using the bags to pc bulk substrate and casing mix and using jars to grow out the grain. I have a 22qt pc.

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Posted 22 November 2005 - 08:37 PM

i'd be using the bags to pc bulk substrate and casing mix and using jars to grow out the grain. I have a 22qt pc.


Nice, me too. If you don't have an impulse sealer, you can find them pretty cheap on eBay. I also bought my bags from www.sporeworks.com too.

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Posted 22 November 2005 - 08:59 PM

i found a "Seal-A-Meal" little guy at a thrift store locally 2 days ago for $.50 ::GRIN:: I'd like a bigger one....show me one on ebay resonably priced...

I also did some shopping today for supplies for over Thanksgiving break. I recently got the pressure cooker. The seals came in monday. I bought 12-Quart wide mouth jars a pair of "canning tongs" a few packs of powder agar and some cheesecloth. Also got powdered lime and poo and straw. I'm going to wing this a couple of times and see how it goes. I have a couple of "Renold's oven bags" i can use. Big question....does composted manure in the pressure cooker stink up the house?....cause...i'm assuming yes.....

Also today i went to the Agricultural Market and bought a 56Lb bag of Winter Rye for $12 and the Beer supply store and got 1Lb of Light Malt Extract and some yeast.....i love living in the country ::GRIN::

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Posted 22 November 2005 - 09:13 PM

Ebay link:

http://search.ebay.c...aler&category0=

I liked livin in the country too, farm n feed lots got great bulk prices.

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Posted 22 November 2005 - 09:15 PM

Electrical zip ties can also be used to close spawn bags. They can be cut off and the bag reused. I have several bags on their fifth or sixth use. Eventually, they get brittle and tear.
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Posted 22 November 2005 - 09:33 PM

Electrical zip ties can also be used to close spawn bags. They can be cut off and the bag reused. I have several bags on their fifth or sixth use. Eventually, they get brittle and tear.
RR


I reuse my bags too, what are these zip ties things exactly?

#9 MurCurY

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Posted 22 November 2005 - 09:42 PM

how is an impact sealer different from a vacuum sealer? Also...couldn't you get a roll of plastic with this and make your own bags?

If you PC poo/straw in one of these bags....how do you keap your house from smelling?

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Posted 23 November 2005 - 06:40 PM

how is an impact sealer different from a vacuum sealer?


Hi guys, it`s my time to pop the cherry and stop lurking =)

Impact sealer is just "welding" the plastic together, but the vacuum sealer sucks out the air from the bag before welding.

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 10:06 PM

never used em but I rencently came up on some and an impluse sealer...I heard of people just growing right out of the bags filled with compost...so I guess I would just fill them with my grain of choice then pc then inncoulate then incubate....how much birdseeed should I fill the bags with? what do you think about myco bags? any tips or tricks?

#12 Hippie3

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 10:14 PM

bags have only one real drawback-
they don't breathe well, even with filter patch.
but that can be worked around
by not placing too much substrate in the bag
so it can hold more air.
you can fill air by hanging the bag up
so it's own weight will draw air thru the resistance of the filter.
how large are the bags ?

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 04:09 PM

not sure someone gave them to me but they look like the large ones...u think a quart jar of wbs would be the right amount of sub for the large sized myco bags

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Posted 24 January 2006 - 04:15 PM

Filterless bag with straw/manure spawned with rye berries , the
bags are opened and shoved down towards the sub 3 or 4 times
for air exchange and done 3 to 4 times a day .

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#15 Hippie3

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 10:15 AM

that looks very good.
you obviously are well named invitro.
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Posted 19 February 2006 - 07:47 AM

here's a shot of b.p.k. in a filter patch bag. i used a 40/40/20 coir/verm/castings mix on this one and the bag was spawned with two brf cakes.

i wasn't expecting this type of flush so the pick looks kinda crappy... peruvians and pfcs also seem to do really well with this method.

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Posted 19 February 2006 - 07:51 AM

that looks great too
nice work

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Posted 19 February 2006 - 08:25 AM

i just found this under my kitchen sink. i guess you could call it a ghetto bag. it's substrate from what i thought was a spent bag of peruvians. i tossed into a shopping bag but forgot to throw it out. it always amazes me how persistent these little guys can be.

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#19 Hippie3

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Posted 19 February 2006 - 08:29 AM

cool.
yeah, they are tough critters.
years ago i had a basement grow op going in a rental
and in one corner i had a big dirt pile [old discarded soil mix]
i got in the habit of tossing old spent cakes over in that corner
for later disposal
then one day i noticed i had a pretty nice crop of boomers
right there on the dirt pile, i guess the cakes soaked up
enough moisture and put out some pretty good sized fruits.




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