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#1 chupbracabra

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 10:23 AM

Hey everyone! Thanks for all the help you all have been so far!:bow:

I am confused about WBS. I bought a bag of Pennington wild bird seed. Will this brand work well?

Also, how do I prepare it and can I fruit directly from the WBS or do I just use it to make spawn?

#2 Dr.Hallucination.

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 10:43 AM

That should work just fine for you...There are many ways to prep it I would imagine,but you could simply boil the WBS for an hour or so,strain it and rinse well.Let it drip dry,or towel dry.Mix with some vermiculite if you like (or not) once rinsed,load into your jars and pressure cook for 60-90 mins.I would only use WBS as spawn.I have not heard of it being used to fruit directly from,but this does not mean it is not possible.

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 11:11 AM

I merely let the WBS soak in a five gallon bucket for 24 hrs. , afterwards strain your bird seed with a screen and rinse at least 3 times. Basically, after straining the WBS for 3 times you should be straining mostly clear water. When you reach the clear water stage, fill your jars half way or so, then pc for 90 minutes.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when I first place the bird seed in the 5 gallon bucket, I scoop off the majority of sun flower seed, as they will float to the top. Plus when tossed into your yard you should have a nice crop of sunflowers.

Spawn on.

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 11:14 AM

24 hours is a long soak for wbs imo.

Have you seen Lazlo's one hour quick soak ?

http://mycotopia.net...-technique.html

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 11:21 AM

24 hours is a long soak for wbs imo.

Have you seen Lazlo's one hour quick soak ?

http://mycotopia.net...-technique.html


Not if you want to pre-germinate the nasty endospores... then they all die in the pc and you don't get contams. That's why a 24 hour soak yeilds a soured bubbling yeast fermenting odor and live activity.

Haven't lost a jar in years!

My squirrels love the strained and tossed sunflower seeds btw!

Edited by roc, 01 March 2009 - 11:22 AM.
Wayback has got it right!


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Posted 01 March 2009 - 11:30 AM

True enough Roc and I would'nt even try to argue with your results.

I just find that anything over a 12-15 hour soak for me with the WBS i've been buying starts to actually germinate the milo and smaller grains.

I get that problem less in the winter for sure.

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 12:32 PM

ive seen techs for a quick rinse which i do myself with success. maybe im doin something wrong and gettin away with it?

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 02:28 PM

I absolutely LOVE Laz's tek. Swear by it. :bow:

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 03:32 PM

i also soak for 24 hours and wonder i've read 12 is good too, which is best does 24 promote contam later or not?

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 05:31 PM

ive seen techs for a quick rinse which i do myself with success. maybe im doin something wrong and gettin away with it?


Buteo, I do a quick rinse WBS tek also.....documented here: http://mycotopia.net...-bird-seed.html

#11 roc

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 05:34 PM

True enough Roc and I would'nt even try to argue with your results.

I just find that anything over a 12-15 hour soak for me with the WBS i've been buying starts to actually germinate the milo and smaller grains.

I get that problem less in the winter for sure.


12 hours is really all it takes...

#12 hyphaenation

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 05:34 PM

Here's how I do bulk WBS in the better weather.

http://mycotopia.net...in-soaking.html

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 05:57 PM

:thumbup: Hyph~ That's a great bulk WBS tek!!!!

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 05:58 PM

:thumbup: Hyph~ That's a great bulk WBS tek!!!!


Thanks a lot. I learned from the best at www.mycotopia.net

#15 chupbracabra

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 10:08 PM

Thanks for all the advice and the links!

#16 roc

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 11:01 PM

The spawn club... can I join?

#17 hyphaenation

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 11:55 PM

The spawn club... can I join?


Membership has its privileges ... :rasta:





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