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#21 waylitjim

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 11:48 PM

Sometimes it makes good sense to go multispore,
clone your ideal specimen, and grow it till it
won't grow no more... that could be years.

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 07:14 AM

Archive material / non cubie shrooms

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 07:23 AM

What is the potency of Pan cyan compared to cubies. Weaker/Stronger?

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 10:55 AM

What is the potency of Pan cyan compared to cubies. Weaker/Stronger?


Pan cyans, at the very least are 3 times stronger than cubensis. Some say 5 to 6X as strong. Cubensis is one of the largest psilocybes out there, but they're definitely not the strongest. This is one reason exotics are so precious in the myco community. They're very potent!

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 11:29 AM

As an alternative Pan cyan substrate, try sterilizing a mixture of manure,
vermiculite, perlite and ryegrass seed. Inoculate, and let the jars colonize
completely. Fruit from the container or lay this mix out in a small tray and
case with a thin layer. Allow this to recover for 48 hours. The vermiculite
has good water retention, perlite holds some but adds good fluff, and the
ryegrass seed does both. As long as you add some grain or seed to the
manure mix, you can inoculate with spores but it's never a good idea
to pasteurize compost intended for spores, always sterilize first.

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 01:41 PM

My tubs were way overdue for pinning [Had always pinned on the 7th day when God is resting lol] So i figured that this maybe one of those shrooms that need a biologically active casing layer to fruit [like Agaricus]...
Sooo i rebirthed em as half cakes and included 10% pasteurized worm poo in the casing layer...Normally i would not want nutrients in this layer but it's the only good source for benificial microbes i have..today is day 2 and fingers crossed..If this works it may then be pos to fruit a brf cake using a similar "active" casing....any thoughts...?

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 01:50 PM

I know the casing mix I use has nutes in it, mostly from the wormcastings,
and cottonseed meal. Overlay is not a problem with Pans, so encouraging the
mycelium to colonize the casing layer has been helpful in my experience.

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 05:23 PM

great info wlj, the mo is on the way from the auction. can't wait to get these started. thanks again

spore....:eusa_droo

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Posted 14 October 2005 - 07:18 PM

great info wlj, the mo is on the way from the auction. can't wait to get these started.
thanks again


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Posted 12 December 2005 - 06:33 PM

The Pan Viets below are fruiting from the same substrate recipe outlined above. Once the containers were colonized, they were dumped into a shallow tray, cased and fruited. This tray is the result of cloning. For those wondering how to increase yields when working with cyans, cloning is indeed the most efficient method. Tissue was removed from the inside of a large stem, transferred to agar, and injected into containers.
~WLJ ;)

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 07:02 PM

Amazing flush man! :cool:

What are these containers you speak of? Do you crumble the colonized sub or just case a large chunk of colonized sub?

Waylit tek ownz lol :headbang:

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 07:08 PM

Was your clone material taken from a single shroom or
from a cluster .

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 07:10 PM

Amazing flush man!
What are these containers you speak of? Do you crumble the colonized sub.?


They're the ones I use in my Pan cyan Tek. Just standard PP5 containers, with a hole in the lid for air exchange. These hold the final fruiting substrate, which is pressure cooked for 1 hour. Once they're fully colonized, they are crumbled into trays for fruiting. The tray above has 3 containers in it.

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 07:13 PM

Was your clone material taken from a single shroom or
from a cluster .


The clone was taken from a single fruit, which was part of a cluster. The stem was twisted to expose the sterile flesh inside. Using a scalpel, a small piece of tissue was extracted and placed on a dish of MEA.
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Posted 12 December 2005 - 07:19 PM

All i can say is wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now i have a real goal to strive for.
Thats gotta be the best flush i have seen on this site yet !
What was the total dry weight ?

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 07:24 PM

beautiful pics!

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 07:32 PM

These went a little long, notice the heavy spore deposit on the caps. This is a Pan Viet clone.

 

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 07:48 PM

wow very nice

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 08:10 PM

Dizzammmm!!!! What an awesome flush!!!
Waylitjim, you never cease to amaze me!
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Posted 12 December 2005 - 08:38 PM

Daiyuum nice waylit..! if my clones turn out half as good i'll b a happy camper ...so they'r all from Nam eh -pretty good size caps...




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