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#1 CaptainFuture

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 05:37 PM

Just a few Cambos. Substrate is cow manure with chopped straw/straw pellets (50:50).
Substrate was to dry, so thats why the caps are that small.

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#2 Dr.Hallucination

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 05:40 PM

Nice pics CaptainFuture.

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 05:42 PM

Wow, Great pinset man, awesome grow, those should do you very very well, Rep to ya for such a fine pan grow. :thumbup: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap



P.S. What was the casing you used?

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 05:48 PM

that's a hell of a haul for these guys from what I've seen here and elsewhere online!

looks like you could blast off into eternity captainfuture!

great job!!!:headbang::headbang::headbang:

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 05:49 PM

:bow::bow:
Very beautiful flush!

Mycobag = just a filter patch for FAE ? and no misting, or other humidity generation ? That's amazing.

Clone or multispore?

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 06:08 PM

Just a few Cambos. Substrate is cow manure with chopped straw/straw pellets (50:50).
Substrate was to dry, so thats why the caps are that small.


Now those are really awesome.

a most excellent grow.

Kudos.

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 07:29 PM

Amazing flush! A forest of Cambos! Great work.

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 11:40 PM

very nice as usual.

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 11:47 PM

Great job Capt.! Again a beautiful grow. Do you print these? I found them to be one of the most interesting studies. Superb man.

Cant wait to see what you come up with next.:bow:

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 02:48 PM

Sorry, I did not know I would get such a feedback on those, so I shortened the description. Here's my usual:

Panaeolus Cambodgiensis Unicorn T3 Mycobag culture.
- Multispore Culture, Spores from 'white rabbit' (@ Zauberpilz.com)
- Rye grain (8days)
- Sterilized (2,5hrs.) Substrate mix: Pulverized cow manure (Garden shop in NL)50%, Chopped wheat Straw, Straw pellets 50% (10 days)
- Very thin Casing layer: Pot Flower Soil + Cocohum Mix, pasteurized
- Temperatures: Spawn 27-28 Degr. Celsius, Fruiting 23-24 Degr. Celsius
- Pins 7days after casing was applied

Spored well, sure there are prints to trade.

And, yes, before I forget for the 100th time: I don't eat my actives, I use only naturally grown Semilanceata for tripping.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 11:25 AM

If you don't mind me asking a perhaps stupid question, Capt. Future, as I don't really know these mycobags.

I'm interested in knowing what kind of air exchange is provided by them. Is it a tyvek-like filter? And do you simply leave the bags to take care of themselves, or do you open to fan and mist regularly?

I'm asking because as far as most Pan TEKs that I have seen go, they always advise to have very high levels of both fresh air exchange as well as humidity. But your tek seems to run counter to that advice!? And with superb results.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 01:20 PM

nice grow
very interesting looking mushies
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 02:07 PM

I use the bags as a tray. After the substrate is colonised I apply a the casing layer, tape the bag outside around to make it more stable & cut the edges down to 0,5-1cm above the casing soil.
Then these cultures are held within my usual plastic boxes.

I mist only the box walls (while the culture is held outside) and the lid. (one time daily) and fan twice a day with the lid inside the box. If I would do that more often, the caps would go larger, I think. Additionally there are polyester wool filled holes on the top and the bottom of the box.
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#14 Om shanti

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 02:20 PM

Very interesting, thanks for the explanation! :-)

While I'm at it, can I ask what you do to prepare for the next flush? There seem to be different theories on the merits of re-casing, and possibly even scraping off the old casing..? And do you dunk?

I'm interested because I'm also trying to grow these myself at the moment.

Looking forward to seeing your next flush! :-)

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 02:24 PM

beautiful ,i would love to see your grow room,as far as i know that u work without hepa,amazing:eusa_clap

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 02:55 PM

Sorry, there will be no next flush.
After the first flush with Pans I kick them out on the compost pile.

And yes, I use a large 'still air' box for agar/grain work. But I do have a small HEPA air cleaner (very small) which I use to get clean air inside the mycobags when inoculating them with grain spawn.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:05 PM

Sorry, there will be no next flush.
After the first flush with Pans I kick them out on the compost pile.

Because the next flushes are not so nice in your experience, or just loss of interest after the first flush?

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 04:02 PM

Because in my experience the dried out surface couldn't be wetted without getting mold within the second flush. And I really have a problem with mold spores in my growing room.
And what a 2nd flush gets me isn't worth the risk. Plus: I get more than enough prints of the first flush, so there isn't really a need for a 2nd.

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 03:57 PM

I have a question regarding the naming of the "cambo" strain. I hope this is an appropriate place:

What are the differences between these strains?

1.) Panaeolus cambodginiensis (Copelandia cambodginiensis)

2.) Panaeolus cyanescens Cambodian

3.) Psilocybe cubensis var. Cambodian

I saw a print marked "cambo" and am curious to know: Why would a strain be simply marked as "cambo" when there are many different varieties? How to tell the difference?

Good looking grow Capt. Future!

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 04:33 PM

Moo, they are different species. Some strains of Panaeolus Cambodgiensis/Cambodginiensis (not sure which one is the more correct?) and Cyanescens are very similar but can be differentiated by examination of spores by microscope. For that reason there has been quite a number of examples of misclassification of these two.

Psilocybe cubensis "Cambodian" is totally different, not difficult to distinguish from the others simply by eye. Compare pictures here to pictures by the Captain
http://mycotopia.net...rainbase-cambo/

2 and 3 are strains of Pan. cyan. and Ps. cubensis, respectively.

BTW, Captain. Thanks for sharing the first and very nice flush at least, I was just looking for some advice on managing the next flushes! I am trying spacecake's dunking tek myself.




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