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#1 Hippie3

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 11:36 AM

The Ohio Department of Health/Department of Agriculture has issued a Notice of Violation to a farmer at a farmers market in Lake County on 7/8/09.
According to the notice, it is a violation to offer cleaned and rinsed “lettuce and mixed greens” in a package at a farmers market. It must be sold dirty, the notice says.
This is due to new rules and the definition of “food processing”. Since the lettuce was cleaned and rinsed with water, the food is defined as “adulterated” because the person doing so is an unlicensed “processor”.
Processors are also subject to home kitchen and farm inspections and seizure of business records. In effect the official notice implies that cleaned and packaged greens are adulterated, while dirty greens are healthier and safer. By their own definitions, dirty vegetables are acceptable, while cleaned and rinsed vegetables are not and are unsafe and “potentially hazardous”.
The official actions of ODH/ODA and their local agent in Lake County gives notice to all farmers markets and farm markets concerning cleaned and rinsed greens, and potentially for other fruits and vegetables.
Since these rules are developed in cooperation with USDA, similar actions are being taken in other states also.



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Posted 13 July 2009 - 11:40 AM

:horse: lol government

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 11:45 AM

USDA=Government

Seems they want their hand in every aspect of our lives.
Especially if there's a buck to be made.
Next we won't be able to wipe our own asses without a proper inspection....and of course only by an authorized entity. With a fee.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 11:48 AM

Wow that sucks, all he was trying to do is give clean produce. If that doesn't take all!
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 11:52 AM

wow that is :bs:

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 11:53 AM

Duh

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 12:23 PM

Duh


duh what?
that the government is a greedy piece of shit?

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 12:37 PM

So what if you where to put on the package " RINSED " or is that just asking for trouble as well. Or don't put ready to serve?
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 12:43 PM

pretty soon?

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 12:48 PM

I thought everyone knew spinach tasted better with a lil E-coli on it.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 01:09 PM

i'd wash them but never mention it
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they sell better if they look clean

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 01:11 PM

If I eat the "unprocessed" greens and get sick can I sue the ODH/ODA ? Sounds like a job for "Class Action Man!"

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 01:48 PM

Have you ever read the FDA Food law of 2000 (amended 2005)?
Allot of ridiculous rules regarding the handling of food all in the name of public health. Their line of thinking is, if its not processed (washed) at a licensed inspected facility, anything could have happened to it therefore its potentially hazardous. Your water could be contaminated with E Coli or any other pathogen.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 01:58 PM

i'd wash them but never mention it
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they sell better if they look clean


That seems like the logical solution to this.

haha...I don't really see why everyone started government bashing.
It's dumb yeah, but there are lots of dumb laws. This doesn't really
hurt anyone, and may even be a good idea. If you bought fruit on
the side of the road and the farmer said he cleaned it, then you got
really sick from eating it like that...that's not good.
I would rather the farmer suggest that I go ahead and clean it well.

While most farmers would know and care to clean it properly,
some farmers maybe don't care as long as you buy their product.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:23 PM

I think its just to protect the consumer. There are standards for cleaning these goods and unless they are proven to meet the standards they cant be marketed as such. I wash ready to use spinach anyway :horse:

Did the farmer face any charges?

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:30 PM

I think its just to protect the consumer. There are standards for cleaning these goods and unless they are proven to meet the standards they cant be marketed as such. I wash ready to use spinach anyway :horse:

Did the farmer face any charges?


everyone knows your supposed to wash ALL vegies you buy he was just cleanin up his product man curb appeal and the gov is a bunch of greedy bastards who want to make sure they get their hands in everyones pockets bottomline

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:57 PM

everyone knows your supposed to wash ALL vegies you buy he was just cleanin up his product man curb appeal and the gov is a bunch of greedy bastards who want to make sure they get their hands in everyones pockets bottomline


Who's pockets did they get into?


*and I do agree, just don't see that here

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 03:03 PM

Who's pockets did they get into?


*and I do agree, just don't see that here


they are pissed that he is selling store quality product at farmers markets so they cant step in and regulate things sure the fda calls it a health issue but in actuality selling pre washed goods is healthier farmers pay taxes and what not gardners dotn they pay land tax thats all

http://www.irs.gov/p.../p225/ar01.html
that is one link that can tell you a little more

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 03:21 PM

I work in a produce dept at a local supermarket... all the "local" greens we get from local farmers such as red leaf, green leaf, and romaine lettuces are always loaded with dirt. This would explain why. LOL

NO WASHY WASHY!!!! lmfao

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 12:16 AM

Even if you buy spinach prepackaged and frozen the directions generally stress the boiling time.




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