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#1 scissors

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 06:39 AM

Firstly, I haven't been on this site for a while - nice job with the overhaul it looks really nice.

Right then, my problem (yet again) is finding jars to use for BRF cakes in the UK. A while ago I ordered some 1/2 pint auto clavable jars with screw on lids from somewhere which were fine. I can't for the life of me remember where the hell I got those from though. More recently I had been using pint sized microboxes which I have run out of now. I would prefer to get some suitable 1/2 pint microboxes or plastic jars, but I can't find any anywhere.

Does anyone know of a place that will ship to the UK (or in the UK)?

Thanks in advance.

#2 Hippie3

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 08:15 AM

the cost of shipping pretty much makes importing out of the question,
you would be best served by local sources.
i understand that many of our UK friends buy jars of jelly, etc.
at their local supermarkets,
empty them and use those jars.
still cheaper than the freight charges.
restaurant supply firms might be a good place
to look for plastic jars that could withstand sterilization temperatures.
another option might be to use
bags instead of jars,
shipping companies that sell boxes often sell bags that can handle the task.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 08:31 AM

go to tesco or big-c department stores they have the #5 PP wide mouth plastic containers with screw on lids..and it comes in many sizes. look in the microwave container isle.
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Posted 21 January 2006 - 11:25 AM

Wow, no Ball or Kerr canning/preserving/pickling jars in the UK?? They missing a decent market there then.

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Posted 21 January 2006 - 11:34 AM

Amazon and many vendors will ship over to the UK if I'm correct...

try here -

http://www.amazon.co...p_4:Ball&page=1

hope that works .. many ball jars.. jelly, wide mouth, pints, quarts, tall, short... etc...

#6 scissors

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Posted 22 January 2006 - 09:13 AM

Thanks for the help, Hippie is right though - importing them is big $$$$$. It costs like $7 for the jars and about $40 for shipping. I suppose I will have to look round tescos or some super markets.

BRF bags could be an idea though as I'm only using the cakes for spawn anyway. Would those self seal injector bags do the trick? I don't want to have to buy an impulse sealer you see.

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Posted 22 January 2006 - 10:16 AM

you don't have to impulse seal it. I fold my bag over and put paperclips on it just to hold it shut. Not regular paperclips...the black ones with the silver piece to open the black clip...
Or you could stuff the mouth of the bag with polyfill and twist tie it shut around the poly.

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Posted 22 January 2006 - 10:24 AM

hey i know what scissors is going thru bro...bag are great and murcury's tek is how i did mine..it works, also tesco has its own brand named containers which is cheaper by far! i had drill a hole in the center of the srew on lid and tape it with medical tape and pc'd them for 90 @15psi...no problem even after 5 rounds! go get a few and try it..doesn't cost much...surely you will like them.
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Posted 22 January 2006 - 02:20 PM

You can use drinking glasses...

Go to a thrift shop or bargain store or
whatever they are called there and
get some cheap glasses - whatever
shape and size you want, as long
as they are tapered out.

Make them like regular PF jars, with
a nice layer of verm over the mix, but
put aluminum foil on top and rubber-
band it on. Use two layers or extra
heavy duty aluminum foil.

Then shoot your spores right through
the foil and verm. What you think?

#10 mayakujoshrooom

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Posted 22 January 2006 - 08:17 PM

If you dont want to have to keep replacing bags or the tescos plastic containers then viraljimmy's got the right idea. When I used glasses I started off with small tumblers and two layers of foil (one to shoot through, one to cover the layer with the puncture) like http://www.fungifun.org/pf/pf_en.htm , and ended up putting all the pint glasses i pinched to good use.

If you do find jars with no shoulders in a supermarket then let everyone know because they would be handy, I never saw any when i was looking for them.

#11 scissors

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 12:40 PM

You can use drinking glasses...
What you think?


Christ, I can't believe that I didn't think of using glasses and foil. I have seen pics of people doing that a hundred times. So simple.....

I have been away from mycology to far too long.

Unless I find something perfect locally, I will probably go with the glasses idea.

Thanks people!

#12 Chen & Barley

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Posted 23 January 2006 - 04:11 PM

i spent over 100 euro to buy and ship 24 half pints to england.


MZ MYCOLOGY <---- if only more business were like em.


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#13 Hippie3

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 10:32 AM

here's a uk source for all kinds of myco goodies
http://www.travellersgarden.com/

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 10:35 AM

btw
www.mycrotopia.com will ship to the uk too,
if you want the best.
:)

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:08 PM

here's a uk source for all kinds of myco goodies
http://www.travellersgarden.com/

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This actually seems to be a dutch company, I am sure they would ship to the UK, but everything would have to go through customs.
Try
http://www.microscience.co.uk for anything apart from spores, for a company inside the UK.

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:18 PM

thru customs ?
inside the eu ?
how odd.
i thought the whole point of the eu
was to eliminate such barriers
between member nations ?

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Posted 27 January 2006 - 06:09 PM

thru customs ?
inside the eu ?
how odd.
i thought the whole point of the eu
was to eliminate such barriers
between member nations ?


If only it were that simple. There are many barriers that have been removed which benefit the EU commercially,however , as I am sure it is the case in the United States,law inforcement agencies do not want the free transport of prohibited substances between member states.
Existing customs controls seem a logical way to keep a lid on that situation.
Imagine what would get stopped if there where check points on every USA state border, and with Holland having such a different attitude towards certain things than other member states, our customs are always on the lookout for things incoming from there.
I have travelled from the southern most tip of Spain(12 miles from Morrocco) to Manchester in the UK (2 1/2 day journey on plenty of different trains) and been questioned 4 different times by customs officials, having to show my passport each time(once to a very friendly sniffer dog who missed all the drugs). Thank goodness they didn't find the 1kg of Morroccan Pollen in the back of the speakers of my sound system! :eusa_shhh

#18 scissors

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Posted 29 January 2006 - 08:46 AM

Thanks for those links, travellers garden has the right microboxes for my needs.

Dogfield, you missed a dash out of that link:

http://www.micro-science.co.uk/

I also found this company in my search:

http://www.mycosphere.co.uk/

I think mycosphere are run by "The Psyche Deli", I believe they grew shrooms for sale in head shops in the UK as well as decent grow kits, so they know their beans.

#19 Dogfield

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Posted 29 January 2006 - 09:45 AM

Thanks for those links, travellers garden has the right microboxes for my needs.

Dogfield, you missed a dash out of that link:

http://www.micro-science.co.uk/

I also found this company in my search:

http://www.mycosphere.co.uk/

I think mycosphere are run by "The Psyche Deli", I believe they grew shrooms for sale in head shops in the UK as well as decent grow kits, so they know their beans.


Sorry about the missed dash, and thanks for the mycosphere link.

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Posted 29 January 2006 - 12:23 PM

Tescos do bonne mamam jam which is in a tapered jar. Here in ireland we get squeez marmalade in the exact same jars but aobut 1/2 the price. Not sure if squeeze is in the UK. Tescos do a range of cheap and good quality microwaveable jars which could be used too.




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