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#41 spacecake

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:56 AM

Hmmm maybe I will do that next time...
I saved this tread to my 'favorites' in windows...so I won't forget...

Shall I use multispore or clones ?
I don't have candidates for clones at this time...

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:34 PM

I'm already working on it Rocketman..!

I'm using jars instead of bags,but that should not be any different.
The jars are in the pc as we speak.

I'm thinking of giving them a nice dunk before they go in the trays right after 100% colonization..,what do you think about that ?

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:17 PM

Sounds really good to me! I cant wait to see how it turns out. :bow:

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 08:51 AM

Beautiful grow and pics. I also use that type of tray, except mine are white and a bit deeper. I double them up one on top the other with a piece of tape down the long side for a self contained, hinged, mini dub tub type thing. :)

The sandoze is a very light colored pan. Almost white when mature. What do the pins look like? Any olive, or orange caps at pinning?

nicely done space!:bow:

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 03:12 PM

The pins are sometimes brown and sometimes orange...
This time they didn't have such a color,but started out with a white looking cap.

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 03:14 PM

Very nice.

I am curius as to where the name Pan Sandoze came from. Only since this is a tropical and subtropical species, I was curious as Sandoz is in Switzerland and had nothing to do with growing Copelandia species.

Roger Heim did grow come Copes in his lab in Paris in the late 1950s.

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 04:46 PM

I was under the impression that a member here (sandoz) found this wild in florida.
I remember seeing several of his posts, but am not sure what the exact details were of his process/isolation.
I think Workman was supplied with a sample or print and made the ID . Not positive on that, or if either isolated or attempted to stabilize a productive version.

Maybe someone who knows for sure will chime in. :)

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Posted 28 June 2009 - 11:40 AM

Great info and pics as usual Space! I use the pancake mix in bags. Because the pans are less resistant to contams than the cubes I dont spawn them to anything.
Just colonize, open bags and put in trays like yours. Skipping the spawning to bulk step seems to work well for me.

I am not talking shit, but I think the average joe like me can get just as much crumbling the cakes and casing them than we can spawning them to bulk. The race against the contams with pans is crucial ime.

If you do any further experimenting, I would love to see a bag of pancake mix crumbled and cased with cactus soil vs. cake to bulk.


I did one experiment Rocketman...
I don't know if it's coincidence...,but the "substrate" jars did flush better then the "spawn" jars.

The two trays in the first pictures are from the "substrate" jars
The two trays from the second picture is from the "spawn" jars.

I would very much like to know,if anyone has ever done the same experiment with pans ?

I have the feeling that the "substrate" jars did better ,because maybe the mycelium was more colonized.
But this is just a guess.

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1246207069

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1246207069

Btw I didn't dunk as I sayed I would....,just forgot aboud it.

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Posted 28 June 2009 - 12:08 PM

nice!!!

I've done "substrate" jars with cubes (poo/verm/brf) before with great results. Haven't done any pans myself, but my results with cubes were to much the same effect.

even though you called it a failure before, seems you succeeded both times to me! :eusa_clap:eusa_clap:eusa_clap

what was your dry weight for each type of tray this time?

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Posted 28 June 2009 - 03:15 PM

I haven't harvest yet,because the caps are still brown and they still gain growth.
Will harvest tommorow.
But I picket up 7 (wet)grams ,couldn't help myself....;)

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Posted 28 June 2009 - 03:38 PM

Wow space this is a true inspiration :eusa_clap.I've got this exact strain on the way and can't wait to start working with it.I'm thinking of building a replica of your chamber to use as well except I may throw a tropic air or two in because it'll be considerably bigger.Nice work man and keep it coming.I've only glanced over it so far so I'm about to go back through it now.Might have a few questions for ya if you don't mind.Thanks for sharing

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Posted 28 June 2009 - 03:49 PM

Be sure to post some pics M&M....I love to see it..!

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 12:12 PM

Harvested the two "substrate jar" trays...

Got a nice 100 grams wet total...not bad....!
Here is a pictures just before I harvested the trays.

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1246295547

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 01:28 PM

:eusa_danc:eusa_danc Now that's a nice flush.Definitely a beautiful grow.Normally how many flushes do you get from pans?

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 01:56 PM

I don't really know,I think as many as with Cubies.
But I do not go beyond flush two myself,because only of few shrooms popup with later flushes,and I don't think that it is worth the time.

But that counts for Cubies too imo.

Sometimes,there aren't really any flushes,it just popups a couple of shrooms everyday or so.
And can keep doing this for days/weeks.

Btw. I harvested the other two trays...total of 60 grams wet.
A pretty good harvest,just in time for my vacation ! :)

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 02:57 PM

This is probably a stupid question but....Do the pans still bruse blue?
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Posted 29 June 2009 - 05:07 PM

I was under the impression that a member here (sandoz) found this wild in florida.
I remember seeing several of his posts, but am not sure what the exact details were of his process/isolation.
I think Workman was supplied with a sample or print and made the ID . Not positive on that, or if either isolated or attempted to stabilize a productive version.
Maybe someone who knows for sure will chime in. :)


yes, originally from the wild in Florida. sandoze went under a different nym at the time, but began major releases as sandoze. thus the name. quite a bit of effort was put into this var. turned out very nice imo. of course spacecake makes 'em look even better. :D

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oh yes, they blue. it can be harder to see or a slightly different color because of the natural pigment of the mushroom.. but they do indeed :)

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 02:38 PM

:D

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 02:51 PM

Very Nice Work spacecake:bow:

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Posted 30 June 2009 - 05:31 PM

VEry nice flushes, Spacecake! So it looks like your new grow room got an A in the Pan exam as well! :teeth:

I think that the current heatwave will give you a fast and good second flush too! BTW, are the Sandose cambodgiensis a bit fatter than 'straight' cambodgiensis. Or is it just yours that are fat? :-)




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