homestead guns - the .22LR
Posted 04 December 2009 - 03:47 PM
Posted 04 December 2009 - 04:13 PM
Personally, I prefer a 9mm over a .45 for a few reasons. One being higher mag capacity. Two being easier follow up shots due to lighter recoil. But thats just a personal preference.
I don't want to start a 9mm vs. .45 ACP pissing match.
Posted 04 December 2009 - 04:24 PM
In the military, weapon choice is more about efficiency, and being able to be handled by a wide range of body sizes, and nothing to do with machismo. Civilians carry 'big' ammo, military carries what works cheapest while maintaining effectiveness/efficiency and leaves the egos behind in the barracks.
:offtopic:firerat is right though, this is a .22lr thread, not a complain-about-bureaucratization-of-the-military nor is it a 9mm vs .45 thread lets keep our heads in the game :lol:
Posted 04 December 2009 - 04:49 PM
edited to say: you know 2 shots from a 9mm are no more or less deadly than a .45 acp. Its all in the shooters hands so to speak. 3x maybe, but again thats wasting brass.
To get back on track here I am going to buy a 10/22 as a gift for a friend this xmas. I remember just a couple of years ago you could get one well under $200, now the minimum is like $250 and to accessorize it goes way up from there.
Posted 04 December 2009 - 06:26 PM
two guns are better than one,
even one with a conversion kit.
and for $1500
i can buy a bunch of guns.
Posted 04 December 2009 - 07:23 PM
i've heard good reports on the ar15 conversion kits
but i'm a poor man
and $1500+ guns
are out of the question.
the bullet is what hits the target,
and $1500 guns fire the same bullets
as cheap guns do.
I just want to say -
An AR-15 doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg.
You can pick up an AR Lower receiver from the gunshop - that's the part you need a background check to buy. It's about the size of a handgun and costs about $100. I found a deal locally for $80 each.
And buy everything else on the Internets. You will need an upper receiver, buttstock and lower parts kit. Many vendors sell these for +/- $550.00.
Here's an example for $485, I've bought from them before, and would recommend their kits for the budget minded.
That brings the total cost to maybe $600.00, of what would otherwise be a $1500 rifle. The quality is just as good as what you would get from S&W, Bushmaster, DPMS, etc. It takes all of an hour to assemble.
Posted 04 December 2009 - 11:11 PM
you know 2 shots from a 9mm are no more or less deadly than a .45 acp. Its all in the shooters hands so to speak. 3x maybe, but again thats wasting brass.
A single shot from a 9mm is just as deadly as a single shot from a .45acp. Especially if you're hitting center mass, as you stated.
If you're using hollow points, 9mm is even more efficient as some hollow points have better expansion/energy transmission than the same hollow point chambered in .45acp. But that's getting into a different discussion, that of stopping power. But if you hit center mass, then you don't have to really worry about whether its 9mm or .45 or .357sig (a very badass round) or whatever...
Posted 04 December 2009 - 11:59 PM
There all two pricey for me to.
I have a ruger 10/22. bought it used for 150 bucks. They had a marlin tube fed with a rail for a hundred but it had been through the works. I like the rugers better.
The bananna mags are nice but buy the ones with the metal lips and some cheaper shells might not feed. The factory rotary mag has yet to screw up on me. Im prolly gonna pick up some more of them. They were on cabelas site like for 14 bucks.
Posted 05 December 2009 - 12:08 AM
Turn it into a high powered crossbow, for example:
It would be damn near silent so as to not alurt any body. so lets say shtf then youdont have to worry about ppl trying to steal your deer.
Now lets say it hasnt yet. Harder for ppl hear you road hunting at night. NO muzzle flash
Posted 05 December 2009 - 01:50 AM
got a link?
have you guys seen the new .50 coversion kit for the ar? I read a good review about it.