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[AndyLandy420]

My limonene came in a HDPE2 jug.

when you say "HDPE2", the 2 is in reference to the recycle code yes?

Of all the suppliers of d-limonene I asked (4) about what material they store/ship the oil in, only one has gotten back to me (in over a week) and they said their larger pails are made of flouronated HDPE and there smaller bottles are PET.

Edited by AndyLandy420, 26 December 2009 - 01:53 PM.
messed up the quote.

[kcmoxtractor]

Yes, and I had ordered a gallon. Which supplier have you heard from so far?

[AndyLandy420]

greenterpene is the only one thats written back yet.

[kcmoxtractor]

Their product is A+ IMO. Quick shipping, and they give you rebates towards future orders.

[kcmoxtractor]

Second batch, using only 50g cactus material, 2% from the first pull (1g).

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[lysergic]

Thanks for sharing this. :bow:

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[Shadowlord]

Thanks KCMO.
Good to see that people are still refining the process. I have to give this a whirl and see how the various salts compare experience wise and the increased yield alone is something to get excited about.

Thanks for sharing KC. :bow:

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[Dian Wei]

Hey guys, first post here.

Just to let you know that the TEK has been further refined so that it's possible to purify the Mescaline Acetate using mek.

"Purification of Mescaline Acetate

The alkaloid extract produced from this tech is a mix of various alkaloids. The exact mix of mescaline to other alkaloids present depends on the type of cactus used as well as the individual specimen extracted. Mescaline acetate is a white free flowing powder. If the extract is brown or amber, or sticky, it's got a high number of non-mescaline alkaloids present. It can be used as is for the full spectrum effects, but if one wants a more pure product, the other alkaloids can be easily removed.

In this section we talk about a very simple technique for cleaning up the mescaline acetate by removing the non-mescaline alkaloids.

Mescaline acetate is insoluble in MEK (methyl ethyl ketone). MEK is a solvent that is found in fruit, similar to d-limonene. It's a normal part of the human diet, but only in very small amounts, like acetone. D-limonene is a much safer solvent, but MEK evaporates really fast so it's easily removed from the end product.

To clean mescaline acetate, dissolve 200 mg of impure sticky amber mescaline acetate in 2 ml of cold MEK. Smash the pure mescaline finely in the MEK. You want the mescaline acetate to form a fine powder at the bottom. Wait for a while until the mescaline acetate powder sinks to the bottom and simply decant the MEK slowly, being careful not to disturb the mescaline acetate. After one cleaning, the mescaline acetate will still be somewhat amber or tan in color. Repeat with 2 ml more cold MEK. After a second wash and decant, dry the mescaline acetate with a fan. After all the smell of the MEK is gone, you're left with off-white nearly pure mescaline acetate.

The impurities removed by the MEK in some cases can be as much as 60% of the alkaloids extracted. The impurities tend to be much less for Peruvian Torch, and very high for Achuma and some varieties of San Pedro.

The amber impurities in the MEK can then be evaporated and used separately. They are typically very sticky and will not form a dry powder even after the MEK is completely evaporated. There are at least two active alkaloids present if the cactus used was San Pedro or Achuma. They are psychoactive, but very much unlike mescaline. San Pedro's impurities tend to be more sedating, similar to the effects of harmaline. Both San Pedro and Achuma have an impurity present that seems to have some MAOI activity which can be used to greatly enhance the effects of morning glory seeds, HWBR seeds, and ololiuqui seeds.

Pure mescaline acetate is a white free flowing powder with a slightly waxy texture very similar to freebase DMT. You'll find that it's much easier to manage after purifying it, being not nearly as waxy, and no longer sticky.

After purification, the experience is a much finer clearer experience far more resembling the effects of LSD, especially when taken with coffee. It is to some, far superior to the effects had from the full spectrum of cactus alkaloids.

NOTE: for the tech to remain food grade, USP or FCC grade MEK must be used. If technical grade or ACS grade is used, it's no longer food grade."

SWIM will hopefully be doing a picture (or potentially video) guide once i've got this tek down.

Thanks for having me on board!

[kcmoxtractor]

Man, not that I don't appreciate it, but I would like that info to be moved to its own thread.

Did you write that procedure and have you performed it or is this a repost? If it is a repost you should give credit where it is due.

Also, I don't want to purify my mescaline acetate. I actually want the mixed alkaloidal salt, which is why I salted with multiple acids.

Welcome to mycotopia!

[Dian Wei]

This was lifted from the original thread off DMT Nexus, from what i remember it was a post by 69Ron himself (although i may be wrong on that). As far as i am aware it works perfectly.

My apologies for not citing the source, i just saw that this wasn't on here.

Some dude's intentions is to get as pure a mescaline as possible from extraction (although i may first sample the mixed salts for comparison) due to it's apparent similarities with LSD. That guy's current favourite psychedelic, but without such a noticeable tolerance build up as he plans to dose in crescendo over a few days.

I'll create a separate thread now, cheers.

[Mr Kush]

good Job KC.....
finally was able to save a dollar to step up and buy some d limonene:).

was wondering if the carbonate salts have been experimented with alone?
if so what are there effects?
are they the sedating alkaloids that come on in the begging you think?

[kcmoxtractor]

I'm not really sure which alk salt would be responsible for the sedative effects. I normally take my different salts and mix them proportionally for my doses. I have not tried just the carbonate salts by themselves, check the DMT-nexus' thread about the carbonates.

[ttfair]

Hi this is my first post...um hello...Can this extraction be used on any type of cactus, ie: perevian torch?

[whatchamacallit]

Hi this is my first post...um hello...Can this extraction be used on any type of cactus, ie: perevian torch?

Yes, but the extract will not yield as many other alkaloids, since peruvian torch (Trichocereus peruvianus) has the least amount of other active alkaloids, compared to Trichocereus bridgesii (Achuma) or Trichocereus pachanoi (San Pedro)..

[ttfair]

many thanks! now i know it's all very subjective but what would anyone say has the best "full spectrum of alkaloids" of those three? hope that makes sense and apologies if all this has been dealt with before, i am new to this place...

[kcmoxtractor]

Bridgesii has the most alkaloids and was a great time for me, can't really speak on a full spectrum pedro extraction as I have no personal experience.

[ttfair]

So it seems like the d-limonene can be used again and again...is the case or am I reading something wrong?

[kcmoxtractor]

It picks up some color and fats from the cactus, but it works just fine. Distilling the limonene would allow it to be used for some time.

[ttfair]

Hopefully this should be my last question as they are probably very tedious to seasoned pros out there but...how does one distill limonene to keep it usable?

Thanks for everyone's advice, very much appreciated...

[kcmoxtractor]

Distillation is the same process for any chem, just different temps.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Distillation