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Non toxic, food safe extraction of mescaline and related alkaloids


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Posted 27 April 2010 - 11:39 AM

Hi everyone!

Has some one you know tried this extraction with wet cactus, instead of re-hydrating the powdered cactus? I'm sure the re-hydrated cactus paste might be a little bit easier for someone else to work with, but do you think the potency might be increased by skipping the drying step?

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 11:43 AM

This is a dry extraction, so you probably shouldn't skip the drying step. :) I messed up and mixed 2x the water with it than I needed to, it didn't seem to make much of a difference, but I would say follow the directions for more predictable results.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 06:00 PM

Sorry if you posted this already, but what was your final yield?

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 07:49 PM

If one was to do an extraction on a larger scale should they just multiply the ingredients by how many times larger the amount of cactus powder is?
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 08:22 PM

Well, scaling up is feasible, to a point. With plant extractions, SWIM has noticed that yields begin to diminish as you begin to scale up too much, surface area of exposed plant material or something comes into play.

I'd suggest scaling up in small increments until you begin to notice a difference in yields. SWIM has noticed while extracting DMT in an a/b, that extracting 750 g MHRB per 2 gal bowl, yields better than 1 kilo per 2 gal bowl, and it isn't directly correspondent with the volume of liquid used. Now how to translate this precisely, and understanding precisely why, isn't always evident, and can prove very difficult.

So please, before you go trying to scale up to huge amounts, please take your time to do so slowly and experiment, because nothing sucks more than expecting an ounce of DMT and getting a half ounce, or with mescaline as well.

It could be it takes more time, it could take more agitation, it could take larger volumes of solvent to get larger amounts, but you won't know without slowly tweaking each element individually.

To be safe, and pleased with your results, I suggest learning a tek as is, then scaling up slowly until you see diminishing returns. Then work on it more to figure out why. This is the way SWIM developed his STB tek, and he would love to get further data and experiences to increase his ability to perform these wonderful teks!

Best of luck in scaling up!!! :thumbup:

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 08:28 PM

I wouldn't really scale up if it were me. Its a dry extraction, so its much more manageable.

Sorry if you posted this already, but what was your final yield?


Enough to have a whole lot of fun ;)

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 09:38 PM

Alright thanks for the info.

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 10:44 AM

how long can the cacti sit in the limonene?
can it stay there for a few days?

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 11:49 AM

I left mine sitting around for a cpl months, then did another pull on it, so quite some time.

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Posted 10 August 2010 - 11:51 AM

Thanks!

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 11:01 PM

my cat's been wanting to do this for a while but was concerned about dosage. he has some 7 year old pedro that's about 2 1/2 " in diameter in lengths to 3 feet. these plants are branches from plants that were cuttings of this diameter when he received them. about how much would be needed for one medium journey? now he knows how things vary and all and just needs a ball park figure. his plants are quite healthy and have been stressed repeatedly. he plans on making a tea or other non a/b extract. he's a good cat. he has eaten peyote a few times years ago and is a seasoned tripper.

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 09:11 AM

how much carbonated water do you use?

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 11:11 AM

So this is the post you were talking about. Good stuff!:eusa_clap

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 05:16 PM

Great TEK.
Post more results!
I'm so stoked I saw this.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 05:27 PM

how much carbonated water do you use?


I used about a half liter of carbonated water per pull on 200g.

Great TEK.
Post more results!
I'm so stoked I saw this.
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:lol: It's been almost a year since I finished the initial extraction.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 05:33 PM

:lol: It's been almost a year since I finished the initial extraction.


This is a new discovery for me. I was about to give up on extraction because Im not interested in harmful chemicals. Thanks so much for testing this and I might message you with some questions some time this week.
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Posted 18 October 2010 - 12:05 AM

what did you use for d-limonene

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 02:17 AM

D-limonene, you can find it using any search engine.

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 03:31 PM

Swim has been trying this tek. He mentioned that the catus, in its Dough form, (mixed with calcium H & water) wasnt breaking up when he added the D-lim. Is this normal? He said the Dough was sat there with D-lim around it. He said he stirred it a lot but the D-lim didnt want to dissolve the dough.

Id be pleased to pass on any info you can give to Swim.

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 10:25 PM

It has the consistency of a pancake, before its been cooked.

I put a picture from phlux up on the first page.




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