Well I made a great trade for 2 g's of sally xtract 12x.Im new to smokin Sally and need some advice.For a first time smoker whats the best method (pipe,Water bong,shum,Joint style)?
Apparently the source this sally came from says this x12 has been compared to the average x20 out there.The person I recieved this sally from has a good rep in the community and I believe them.
How much should I smoke to get a nice buzz?
Sally advice: smoking ? [merged]
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cutty
, Feb 16 2005 12:02 PM
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 12:12 PM
My advice, which sounds a little stupid, but is good in my opinion, is thusly:
Load a big bowl.
Smoke till you trip.
It may take a lot, it may only take a hit, but the stuff comes on in 15 seconds or so, so it's fairly hard to really overdo it.
Do it somewhere on the ground floor, in a safe room, with someone who can keep you from running out the window or something.
Or, just don't frickin move, 100% of sally trip injuries come from people trying to move/run/whatever...
Load a big bowl.
Smoke till you trip.
It may take a lot, it may only take a hit, but the stuff comes on in 15 seconds or so, so it's fairly hard to really overdo it.
Do it somewhere on the ground floor, in a safe room, with someone who can keep you from running out the window or something.
Or, just don't frickin move, 100% of sally trip injuries come from people trying to move/run/whatever...
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 12:18 PM
I would agree just load a fat bowl in a bong or just a regular pipe hit it up until you start to trip and fasten your set belt. Just sit down and man let it take you away
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 12:37 PM
Personally one big pipe hit of 12x would fuck me up.
Load a bowl, take 1 hit, take a 2nd, if you can still take a 3rd i'll be impressed.
Load a bowl, take 1 hit, take a 2nd, if you can still take a 3rd i'll be impressed.
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 12:41 PM
chalk the bong,
load it up till you can't put anymore in it.
make sure you burn as much as you can.
the smoke should be so thick it should be yellowish.
take the hit.
put your seatbelt on, oh and put the bong down quickly.
you won't remember exhaling.
load it up till you can't put anymore in it.
make sure you burn as much as you can.
the smoke should be so thick it should be yellowish.
take the hit.
put your seatbelt on, oh and put the bong down quickly.
you won't remember exhaling.
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 12:54 PM
Well thx for all the advice guys,I see all the pros are responding.Well I don't have a bong so I'm in the process of making a homemade bong.Then I'm off to see the wizard..I'll post my 1st experience with sally when I return.
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 12:55 PM
It's really up to your own disgression. If your going to take on the responsibility of something as serious as "sally" prepare yourself for a lesson, she is a powerful teacher and should not be abused. Be safe, be with people you trust, and follow the advice that you see fit for your own situation. If your just doing "sally" to get fucked up, well, she'll kick your ass straight no questions asked, so either way prepare your self for the brutal seduction of the green lady.
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 02:18 PM
Ok well My sally Experience is finished We finished 1.5g's,It was a wierd sensation,I didnt even feel like I was high,but I definetely was,My body felt like rubber.My friend and I laughed hard for a minute then he said "I dunno what they're doin over there" There was no one there and we were in an empty apartment.He swore that there was a group of people across from us.In any Case I enjoyed my ride with sally and I do have a new found respect for her.
Thx for all the tips guys,you definetely helped me have a safe go with Sally.
My one question is are all these effects we experienced normal for a sally trip?
(Message edited by cutty on February 16, 2005)
Thx for all the tips guys,you definetely helped me have a safe go with Sally.
My one question is are all these effects we experienced normal for a sally trip?
(Message edited by cutty on February 16, 2005)
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Posted 16 February 2005 - 02:41 PM
normal for a sally trip?
I don't think there is such a thing, we have had some discussions on here about the fucked up way that sally makes you feel (falling spinning flying, ect) Not very fond of it meself, but compare notes with some people here and you'll get an idea for what's 'normal'
I don't think there is such a thing, we have had some discussions on here about the fucked up way that sally makes you feel (falling spinning flying, ect) Not very fond of it meself, but compare notes with some people here and you'll get an idea for what's 'normal'
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Posted 20 February 2005 - 02:06 PM
i smoke it in a water bong, you should use a propane torch lighter or you are just wasting your time, imo, you need to keep that hot flame in direct contact with the erb while you are smoking it, as the active ingredient gets release at around 300 degrees.
i take in all i can, hold it as long as i can, then exhale, then before taking another breath i put the torch back on it and do this again. your body breaks the salvinorin A so fast that the idea is to get it in as fast as you can. for me, by the time i've got me second lungfull i'm on my way to salvia space. if are havn't smoked extract before then make sure you start off with a small bowl! it can be scary sometimes!
does anyone know of a vaporizer that hits 300 degrees?
i take in all i can, hold it as long as i can, then exhale, then before taking another breath i put the torch back on it and do this again. your body breaks the salvinorin A so fast that the idea is to get it in as fast as you can. for me, by the time i've got me second lungfull i'm on my way to salvia space. if are havn't smoked extract before then make sure you start off with a small bowl! it can be scary sometimes!
does anyone know of a vaporizer that hits 300 degrees?
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Posted 20 February 2005 - 02:44 PM
I have a butane torch by Colibri that hits around...uh...hot? 2300 is the max temp for butane flame I think. "The change in moles of gas upon the complete oxidation of butane is only 7.5 moles to 9 moles, corresponding to an isothermal (constant temperature) pressure increase of only 1.2 (9/7.5) times the original pressure. But, the adiabatic (no heat loss) flame temperature of butane is around 2350 C, so the increase in pressure due to the temperature expansion is approximately 8.8 ([2350+273]/[25+273]). The 273's are to convert to the Kelvin temperature scale."
http://www.angelfire.../coolstuff.html
Regardless, I'm fairly sure a regular flame from a disposable burns hotter than 300 degrees and will effectively torch up salvia (it did for me). The nice thing about torches is that it's a faster hit, I think - for those that have smoked it I think that might make sense - it heats to desired temp quicker, ergo smokes fater. Oh, how interesting:
"A typical disposable lighter is made of thin plastic and contains a few cc's of butane, under sufficient pressure to keep it in a liquid state. Butane, both I and N type, boils well under the melting point of water. Somewhere between 13 and 32 degrees farenheit, butane boils into a gas. So at a standard temperature (70 farenheit, for example) butane is a gas which ignites and burns quickly in the presence of oxygen. In a lighter, butane is compressed sufficiently to keep it liquid. Inside the lighter, therefore, there is only butane in both a liquid and gas form. ( As the lighter is slowly drained of gas, volume of butane decreases but the container volume remains static, so some of the butaine boils into butane gas) That apparently empty part of the lighter is not air, it is clear butane gas. The gas itself will not burn in the absence of oxygen, so the internal spark theory is not likely."
http://www.madsci.or...96274.Ph.r.html
Regardless, an open flame is well over 300 degrees - even if one took knife hits off the stove with salvia, it'll work as long as the knives are hot enough. I personally perfer the strongest extract one can find (I think these days it's 40x, though two years ago I did 20x) and a solid bong that delivers hard hits - pack in good weed and top with extract and take a monster rip because one hit ought to do you.
For interesting salvia experiences, see here http://mycotopia.net...hread.php?t=796
http://www.angelfire.../coolstuff.html
Regardless, I'm fairly sure a regular flame from a disposable burns hotter than 300 degrees and will effectively torch up salvia (it did for me). The nice thing about torches is that it's a faster hit, I think - for those that have smoked it I think that might make sense - it heats to desired temp quicker, ergo smokes fater. Oh, how interesting:
"A typical disposable lighter is made of thin plastic and contains a few cc's of butane, under sufficient pressure to keep it in a liquid state. Butane, both I and N type, boils well under the melting point of water. Somewhere between 13 and 32 degrees farenheit, butane boils into a gas. So at a standard temperature (70 farenheit, for example) butane is a gas which ignites and burns quickly in the presence of oxygen. In a lighter, butane is compressed sufficiently to keep it liquid. Inside the lighter, therefore, there is only butane in both a liquid and gas form. ( As the lighter is slowly drained of gas, volume of butane decreases but the container volume remains static, so some of the butaine boils into butane gas) That apparently empty part of the lighter is not air, it is clear butane gas. The gas itself will not burn in the absence of oxygen, so the internal spark theory is not likely."
http://www.madsci.or...96274.Ph.r.html
Regardless, an open flame is well over 300 degrees - even if one took knife hits off the stove with salvia, it'll work as long as the knives are hot enough. I personally perfer the strongest extract one can find (I think these days it's 40x, though two years ago I did 20x) and a solid bong that delivers hard hits - pack in good weed and top with extract and take a monster rip because one hit ought to do you.
For interesting salvia experiences, see here http://mycotopia.net...hread.php?t=796
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Posted 20 February 2005 - 02:56 PM
very insightfull, the reason for the torch lighter is to get the erb up to 300 degrees, a normal lighter is over 300 but, but the torch lighter will get the erb hot real fast.
i have smoked plenty of salvia extract and find that the torch lighter is the way to go.
i got one for 6 bucks and it is well worth the money. but we all have our own preferences.
i have smoked plenty of salvia extract and find that the torch lighter is the way to go.
i got one for 6 bucks and it is well worth the money. but we all have our own preferences.
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Posted 20 February 2005 - 10:43 PM
ah, i had my first sally experience 3 days ago. it was a strange trip indeed. i was told it would 'make you feel like your being sucked into the floor', indeed this was the case. me like sally.
i simply used a pipe and a regular lighter, and it works just fine. btw, it was 10x extract. good shit! i recommend sitting down though when you smoke it! ;)
i simply used a pipe and a regular lighter, and it works just fine. btw, it was 10x extract. good shit! i recommend sitting down though when you smoke it! ;)
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Posted 21 February 2005 - 07:32 AM
sounds to me like you had a very minimal experienceare all these effects we experienced normal for a sally trip?
your friend got much more
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Posted 21 February 2005 - 08:39 AM
"but the torch lighter will get the erb hot real fast."
That's the real key is that it makes it smoke up right away as opposed to waiting a second for the heat to take - same goes with weed, when you first hit it it's uncherryable until you get a burn into it - torches save time and you're totally right, for $6 it's hard to not make the investment. And I can attest because I got that $30 Colibri over half a decade ago and it works to this day. I also like them for blunts because they can unfuck a run/boat really well.
That's the real key is that it makes it smoke up right away as opposed to waiting a second for the heat to take - same goes with weed, when you first hit it it's uncherryable until you get a burn into it - torches save time and you're totally right, for $6 it's hard to not make the investment. And I can attest because I got that $30 Colibri over half a decade ago and it works to this day. I also like them for blunts because they can unfuck a run/boat really well.
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Posted 05 March 2005 - 08:14 PM
I've been smokin 10x for some time out of a water bong because of how sharp sally is, but cant seem to get an intense high. Will doing hits from a pipe give a stronger high?
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Posted 05 March 2005 - 09:15 PM
You can't get an intense high smoking 10x out of a bong!?!
Is it standardized extract? A couple small pipe hits of 5x usually
does me pretty good, and a bong hit of 10x usually sends me
straight to sally land.
Is it standardized extract? A couple small pipe hits of 5x usually
does me pretty good, and a bong hit of 10x usually sends me
straight to sally land.
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Posted 05 March 2005 - 09:20 PM
You have to take one big hit and hold it in for as long as you can.
You also have to keep your lighter on the herb so the goods will vapourise.
You also have to keep your lighter on the herb so the goods will vapourise.
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Posted 06 March 2005 - 01:56 PM
Its not extract, it looks like shake that maybe extract has been added to. I smoked 2 bowls, back to back, it stayed red-hot, I got a little fuzzy headed, but that was it.
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Posted 09 March 2005 - 08:04 PM
Man. After my experience with 10x and a small bong, it sounds like you got burned or it has widely varying doses. 10x makes my body go fucking crazy.
I have to admit I'm afraid of going off to sally land myself. I've tried it 2x now and the 2nd time I was drunk. I had a rapid vibrating effect, like I was flying out of my mind but rubber-banded to this reality so I just had a sort of "cosmic wobble" and it wasn't much fun. Do I really have to smoke a *ton* to experience full effects?
I have to admit I'm afraid of going off to sally land myself. I've tried it 2x now and the 2nd time I was drunk. I had a rapid vibrating effect, like I was flying out of my mind but rubber-banded to this reality so I just had a sort of "cosmic wobble" and it wasn't much fun. Do I really have to smoke a *ton* to experience full effects?
