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[BeardedLadysLady]

Okay. So your not saying Bush deserves a Nobel Peace Prize? I thought you were.

[toadshroom]

J His talks sounds like he is still on the campaign wagon!!!!

I think he still is on the campaign wagon...Secretary General of the U.N. when his term is over....if he fails at reviving America, I believe much of the world will blame it on the U.S. citizens, not Obama, and be very sympathetic towards him....Anit-Christ Superstar?

[WildCubensis2]

Okay. So your not saying Bush deserves a Nobel Peace Prize? I thought you were.

Hell No!!!! Bush is a dumbshit!!! Obama doesnt deserve 1 either!!!! I have no clue why they did that & whos Idea it was to say "well hell lets give 1 to Obama!!!"

[BuckarooBanzai]

And ya wanna give Bush a prize for that?

Why did Obama win the Nobel?

To quote Thorbjorn Jagland, one of the people on the selection committee:

"We are hoping this may contribute a little bit for what he is trying to do. [The Nobel Prize] is a clear signal to the world that we want to advocate the same as he has done to promote international diplomacy.

We have to get the world on the right track again. Look at the level of confrontation we had just a few years ago. Now we get a man who is not only willing but probably able to open dialogue and strengthen international institutions."

To quote their citation:

"His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population."

[Doctor D]

It's positive reinforcement. "We like what you stand for - keep it up." That's the message I get from it. That, and "Thanks for not being Bush!"

[WildCubensis2]

Obama is gonna be Bush for Halloween!!!

[bbd2]

...those who are to lead the world...

a key concept

the holder of the office of american president is the "most powerful person in the world"

obama is proving singularly capable of accumulating power

and, with the US leading the world at 50% of global military spending,
to a certain extent only obama's opinion matters when it comes to peace in the world
everyone else responds, positively or negatively depending on what his view is

so when he uses the UN instead of MOAB as the primary approach to dealing with the world and international conflict, fewer ppl die. thats fact, thats peace

others seem to be playing along so far

he deserves it in principle,

more than anyone else in recent times,

who else has that much weight?

you all should really watch his cspan interview on the audacity of hope
where he talks about what it means to him to be president of the united states

specifically, he compares the amount of influence you can have as a senator vs. the level you can as president

in a sense, none of this is surprising,

read their books, him and rahm, they have big plans

"if you are planning to lift a big weight, better have the muscle to do it"

[stonedcoder]

What the hell is happening in this country? When did we become so partisan that we wanted to hurt everybody just so the other side would loose face?

We characterize the administration as socialists and our leader as a Nazi. We cheer when the US looses the Olympic games. We boo when our President wins a Nobel Prize. We take guns to health care town halls and let the insurance companies tell us what to scream at our representatives. Our research department is Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. Our mouth piece is Sarah Palin.

WTF?

It makes me sick to my stomach.

Quick, somebody come throw some partisan rocks and scream about how our President is ruining your country.

this is the most concise post about shit i've seen in a while - BB right on man. !
seams like everyone is just trying to get a leg up by stepping on people - shouting "listen to me" ... it seams that the only crap people are listening to is the far right OR the far left ...what happened to the logical sensible middle.


we're all fucked unless we collectively get our shit together ...

[CoyoteMesc]

Fuck that..lol

Little Boy Blue gets his prize on hopes to lure him to even START the race. lol

Buck, I totally disagree. We the people need to do even more.
War can be beneficial in times like these, a revolutionary war.
Well, dont think we are that far yet, but hey, its only been a
short ten months. Give it a couple more years, or less.

I dont believe any admin has spent this much money in such a short amount of time
and had pulled NOTHING from this magical hat.. The man is awarded
a Nobel Peace Price for promises and ideas that many before him have
made and failed to follow through, so he's something new? Has he successfully
completed ANYTHING yet? The man wouldn't even me with Dalai Lama,
COME ON, Dalai Lama. :lol: Do you know why? Think China may be in
Obamas head?

[Hippie3]

fuck politics.

[bmad]

:lol:



And with that, I'll step out. This is the kind of thread where I get into trouble!

I completely agree here :)

[WildCubensis2]

I dont know if its just me but has anyone heard Obama is just a puppet in all of this & actually has no power over anything in this country

[squizzlix]

the fact that he has nations communicating is a big factor.
down with the "yer with us...er against us..." mentality.
i'm happy for him.
he has helped me no longer feel ashamed of my country.

[firerat]

I dont know if its just me but has anyone heard Obama is just a puppet in all of this & actually has no power over anything in this country

He is just a paid face to take blame for finger pointers the real people in control of the country are rich cons getting richer bilderberg group

How did I know it would end up here.

Look I'm not a fan of Obama mysef nor am I a fan of him winning the Nobel prize for my own reasons. But there's a reason I haven't said much in here.

The president bashing needs to stop. This isn't the place for it and it's not what this thread is supposed to be about, so cool it ok.

[squizzlix]

How did I know it would end up here.

Look I'm not a fan of Obama mysef nor am I a fan of him winning the Nobel prize for my own reasons. But there's a reason I haven't said much in here.

The president bashing needs to stop. This isn't the place for it and it's not what this thread is supposed to be about, so cool it ok.

YOU GO RAT!

[BuckarooBanzai]

Coyote - don't take this the wrong way, man...but what the fuck have You the people done? Chill the rhetoric, man.

Hippie3 - fuck politics. An incredibly healthy and important perspective that I completely agree with. 'Tis why I opposed introducing politics onto this forum so vociferously after the election.

Firerat - throwing rocks solves nothing and just makes us dig trenches to avoid rocks. I couldn't agree with you more.

FUCK THIS HATRED OPPOSITION NOISE.

This is OUR country. We are ALL Americans. Administrations change. Power players shift. WE must all still live TOGETHER.

We don't hate our brothers whom we know personally - we hate constructs and generalities that almost nobody actually matches.

Courtesy never changes. Being offensive just to offend never changes. These are constants just like human disagreements over "basic" ideas are constant.

I prefer courtesy and the polite exchange of ideas to warfare and name calling. It is why I love Mycotopia so much.

[Rhyno]

:bow:Indeed!

[mydarling]

fuck politics.

cheers to that!

[BuckarooBanzai]

Why throw rocks when you can get fucked up and giggle?

It is bitch beast hard to hold a bowl and a lighter and a rock.

Just sayin.

[I_am_me]

Another common misconception is that the award necessarily has anything to do with peacemaking efforts at all. Let's not forget that they gave one to Henry Kissinger. :bs:

And in the case of Obama, shouldn't they have at least waited until he started his peace making efforts?

The award is often given with the thought of the potential to do great things. It really isn't just about reward past accomplishments. I don't think anything negative can come of this other than his political enemies being upset. If anything, it will at least help improve our world image. Interesting to read about it really.