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San Pedro alcohol extracts:dosage?

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#1 greenkurma

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 02:24 AM

Hello Cacti Fans
I have had these extracts I made about 6 months to a year ago in my freezer. I cant remember how many of what species I used but it should be pretty potent (I hope). I'm guessing its 2 12" San Pedros and 1 12" Bridgessi but I can not figure out how much of this tar to eat.

151tar:23g
ISO:25g(-wax paper ~3g)

The first washes were done with B.151, and somewhere I ran out of 151 and finished with Iso. The 151 tar is nice and brittle when frozen, I smashed it into small bits. The Iso tar never fully solidified and I don't plant to eat the sticky mess let alone get it off the wax paper.

How much tar did you get from your Alcohol extract?
Does anyone have a clue how much a dose of cacti tar should be?
I was thinking of dosing in size 00 pills but maybe it could be balled up and put in a chocolate coating? Ideas anyone?

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 03:03 AM

roughly
you could take the amount of tar
divide it by 3
8.4
should give you a 12'' inch dose
bridgesii has more magic in it than pedro
so that might be something you want to take into consideration

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 04:10 AM

Thinking again I probably used dry Torch, It could have been about 100g, and I had some loss too. So the dose could be over half of what I got here.
To whom that has eaten mescal tar, how much did it weigh, and how did you eat it and how was it?

#4 Mr Kush

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 09:47 AM

I have used mature pedro before (pachanoi),
120 grams dry powder yeilded me 10 grams of tar (used iso).
took all at once and I't wasnt all that big of a dose compared to what I have expereinced before with tea ect.

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 12:53 PM

Mr. Kush,
Did the iso tar you ate get hard and brittle or stay sticky? How did you eat consume it?

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 04:19 PM

it stayed gooey/sticky, never freezed it.
I stuffed a gram each into 00 capsules/ ten capsules in all.

If it's done with peruvianas it could be alot stronger. most seem to say that 100 grams dried yeildes a strong does.

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 06:40 PM

Dry weight is ~ 8% of fresh weight, and weight of tar is ~ 25% of the dry weight. Therefore, 23g of tar is =~ 92g dried cactus which is =~ 1.15kg fresh cactus. If you use 000 capsules, you should be able to get between 1.8 and 2.2 grams in each capsule. My suggestion would be to capsule it in 000 capsules and eat them all. It should take between 11 and 13 capsules. Eat it all! :headbang:

Remember these formulas:

WetWeight.08=~DryWeight
DryWeight/.08=~WetWeight
DryWeight.25=~TarWeight
TarWeight/.25=~DryWeight
WetWeight.02=~TarWeight
TarWeight/.02=~WetWeight

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 08:19 PM

Mr. Kush thanks I have new hope for maybe capping up the goo.
MM, really thank you for the inspiration and detailed conversion table. I would like a real good mind bender, but I could also div it up in two for a light dose.

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 08:34 PM

http://mycotopia.net...caline-tar.html

something i noticed was that these threads were posted almost exactly a year apart

11.19.08 and 11.21.09

an annual cycle of mescaline tar dosing?

whats going on here?

#10 greenkurma

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Posted 21 November 2009 - 08:55 PM

There is always someone, somewhere, dosing on Mescaline tar.
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Posted 01 December 2009 - 02:41 PM

I ate 15g of the tar, it was not as great as the tea. Easier to keep down, but the whole trip was slow and low, the tea is electric and full of healing. The thought of a gaint wad of tar oozing through my system just puts me off.

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 05:53 PM

I ate 15g of the tar, it was not as great as the tea. Easier to keep down, but the whole trip was slow and low, the tea is electric and full of healing. The thought of a gaint wad of tar oozing through my system just puts me off.


glad you noticed, altho the tar is still a wide spectrum,
imo going anyfurther then tea the spirit is not present anymore, you treat mescalito like a compound, a compound you shall be treated as well...machinery.
for me i'm not looking for just a random visual experience, but a healing/learning session from the honest wise one, just my opinion.

Tea all the way:heart:.

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 06:38 PM

roughly
bridgesii has more magic in it than pedro
so that might be something you want to take into consideration


It is more consistent on average, but the extra magic you speak of isnt in mescaline usually. It is from the maois found in the cactus itself. I find a large drop from each stage of extracted mescaline.

Best it gets is eating the skin and undrlying membrane.
Tea is close to whole cactus but there is a difference
alcohol extractions lose many of the pleasurable effects, namely the speediness and peak is either non existent or it is diminished greatly.
Lastly, pure mesc sulfide or hcl is still a great time, but you lose even more of the orgasmic peak. On whole cactus I peak for no less than 3 hours.

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 06:42 PM

Dry weight is ~ 8% of fresh weight, and weight of tar is ~ 25% of the dry weight. Therefore, 23g of tar is =~ 92g dried cactus which is =~ 1.15kg fresh cactus. If you use 000 capsules, you should be able to get between 1.8 and 2.2 grams in each capsule. My suggestion would be to capsule it in 000 capsules and eat them all. It should take between 11 and 13 capsules. Eat it all! :headbang:

Remember these formulas:

WetWeight.08=~DryWeight
DryWeight/.08=~WetWeight
DryWeight.25=~TarWeight
TarWeight/.25=~DryWeight
WetWeight.02=~TarWeight
TarWeight/.02=~WetWeight


Nice arithmetic :thumbup:





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