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[Phlux-]

Okay so this is still a tek in progress - but the results so far seem promising enough to post.

This tek aims at getting mescaline out of the cactus without using a non-polar solvent.


Requirements :

Hydrochloric acid
Calcium hydroxide
Acetone
Water


Starting from resin.

The resin is mixed with lime and some water to make a paste - this is allowed to react for a while

Acetone is added - stirred or shaken and left for a while

The solution is filtered thru a coffee filter

Hcl is added to the acetone and the precipitate filtered out - if any forms

the acetone(now contaminated with water and hcl) is evapped

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1265868896

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1265868896

The final resin like product has bands of xtals in it - this is washed with hot acetone

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1265868896

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1265868896

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1265868896

The remaining stuff is dried or picked up with water - then dried - its tan in color and bitter as all hell

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1265868897

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1265868897

It doesnt smell much if the hot acetone wash is done - that acetone leaves such a stinky product when evapped.



Notes -

Replacing the acetone with ipa may be a good idea and may lead to a cleaner product.

I noticed some of the non mesc alkaloids are hygroscopic in nature as hcl salts - i think separating the mesc from the non mesc - making the non mesc into a solid salt form then combining would be the ultimate purist approach - a dry xtalline mixed pedro extract.

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Edited by hyphaenation, 11 February 2010 - 01:19 AM.

[Mrs.Hippie3]

Nice tek write up. thank you. its a pity that you did not upload your pics here or this would go into our vaults.

[Shadowlord]

Very Nice Phlux.
Thanks for sharing the tek and all the great pics recently.
Love that cactus.
:cacti:
Mescaline is such a fantastic substance and the cacti are my favorite teacher plant.
:cacti::heartbeat::cacti:

[Phlux-]

hrmm - my edit button is missing - cant change the source of the pix.

[kcmoxtractor]

Probably has been to long between the original post and now, maybe one of the mods will upload them for you. Excellent thread though Phlux, I want to try this on some achuma sometime soon!

[kocos]

Great thread as always man. Nice and illustrated! Thank you :bow:

[Fly on the Wall]

Interesting. Has this stuff been assayed for purity?

What does SWIY think about applying Ron's limonene tek to the resin?

[Phlux-]

id say 33% mesc - it was fun.

the drytek works perfectly with this as you suggested - iv done it many time and am boiling down like 4kg's atm to do almost just that.
salting with hcl is far better tho imo - acetates suck.(and they suck water- hygroscopic)

[Fly on the Wall]

Very cool. SWIM doesn't perform such things, but a resin --> limonene tek might be a good solution for people who aren't about spending so much on gallons of limonene but still want to keep with the food-safe aspect of the tek. Ron has also said that the acetate is more active for some reason, what other than the hygroscopicity makes you prefer the HCL salt?

[Phlux-]

yeah doing it with calcium hydroxide and dlimo works well - that wasnt the intention of this tek thos - this tek was to try get fairly pure mesc without the use of a non polar solvent.
i dont particularly like the effects of the acetate, its a bit speedy - quite a number of ppl seem to say that too.
you could alternitavely salt with citric acid - thats foodgrade.

[kcmoxtractor]

Or carbonated water, that would be food grade also.