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#21 Erkee

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 06:15 PM

Noc sites are snow covered right now.:eusa_thin

This critter holds some of my interest Tasty:

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#22 Dr.Hallucination

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 06:17 PM

Ya that thing is very cool indeed.I want one...

#23 ethnobotanica

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 06:26 PM

That is just too damn cool!:rasta:

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 11:31 AM

Fucking awesome. My mechanically uninclined self will stick to sketchily spraying a spray bottle into woodchips, but I commend you on your ingenuity.

#25 Erkee

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 12:39 PM

On prepared subs, spray bottle is a simple way.

With mycorrhizals, getting to the active root zone seemed important without disturbing activities in other layers. And the notion: the further from the root zone, the less chance a spore starts with.
I worry about disruption - is adding spores like introducing Piranha to Tilapia?
Any soil philosophers out there?

#26 fucgubarn

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 10:09 AM

very very cool!
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#27 greenie

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 10:15 AM

this soil philosopher says: rock oN!

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 10:28 AM

Very inventive.:)

#29 zodd

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 10:43 AM

:amazed:

pls keep innovating this idea. i would like to see it developed into an idiot proof tek.

ive just developed a very worrying back condition, hopefully it will heal in time but a walking stick is sounding a hell of a lot cooler. :teeth:

also im an idiot :special:

#30 Erkee

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 01:03 PM

For sure, needs work.
This is only a proto and the first at that.
Revision and versions for variety and special use.

Simpler,stealthier?: a `dribble`stick with some flow control and no tired thumb. Pause longer where it looks good! Reservoir and siphon effect.. just control air bleed into reservoir and keeps itself flowing once started..

This first one gives me: reach, penetration, controlled `dose`, large reservoir, quick dose, collapse-able for storage, and the `appearance` of doing something - I was going to clean it up a bit and offer the service of inoculating some of their woods with edibles - a pleasant seasonal enterprise.

Many days and many ways before its use is fully felt. Experimentals.

For sure would like to see the topia adaptations and trials and stories.:eusa_clap

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Posted 21 February 2010 - 01:31 PM

As everyone has said, that is a thoughtfully designed, simple and effective way to spread the love...+ Rep from me also, as Soliver made mention of, I immediately thought of Johnny Appleseed gone Myco lol...keep up the great work and ingenuity!

Peace and Light...Z

#32 Erkee

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 11:54 PM

Simpler. Better.

Simpler:
Aluminium ski-pole, 4 holes, tube, bottle.
Remove plug, suck end of hose to start, insert hose and go.
Self feeding.
Self cleaning.
Continuous.

Better:
The natural movement of lifting the stick and placing it again lifts and drops fluid inside the column/pole creating a natural spurt of pressure after the tip has entered the ground!!
Positive hole clearing agitation with each ground penetration.


Supplies:
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- Aluminium ski-pole ~ $used?
- Drill, 1/16", 3/16" and 3/8" bits.
- 3 to 4 inches 18 or 20 gauge wire.
- Twig to make stopper.
- Small magnet.
- 2 litre pop bottle.
- 6~7 feet 1/8"-ID hose ~ $2
- Nail, hammer, pliers.
- Pencil/marker.

CAUTION drilling holes.
Drills that slip usually aim for the centre of my thumb.

Time:
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< 1/2 hour.


Doing:
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1. Inoculant exit hole.

Slide magnet from steel tip of pole up onto aluminium until it 'tugs' - this will be the end of the hardened steel tip insert hidden under the aluminum.

Make mark 1/8"~1/4" further up the pole.

Use nail and hammer to tap a starter divet.

Drill through wall of aluminium using 1/16" bit. Just one side not all the way through.

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2. Hole cleaning apparatus & flow damper.

Insert the wire straight into the hole as far as it goes, wrap the wire around the pole tightly.

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3. Inoculant intake.

Drill 3/8" hole into top of ski pole handle
aiming to the middle of the aluminium pole.

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4. Reservoir.

Drill two 3/16" holes into cap of 2 litre bottle - this is the trickiest, expect the cap to spin out from your fingers. Use pliers here.

Twist and push 1/8"-ID hose through one cap hole to reach bottom of pop bottle.

5. Plug.

Find twig about the size of the other 3/16" cap-hole. Keeps inoculant from sloshing out until you're ready to use. Wet wood swells, plugs well.

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6. Use.

Fill with spore water, thin slurry or LC.
Start by removing cap-plug.
Suck on hose until fluid comes.
Insert hose into the 3/8" handle-hole and slide well in (~2 feet).
Make sure reservoir is higher than the hose end inside the ski-pole - backpack works, flow should continue without further attention.
If pole overflows, pinch hose.

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NOTES:
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- different wire thickness's for different flow and inoculant type. I find 18~20 gauge good in 1/16" hole good for 'water'.
- ski pole fluid level should rise while you use it (discharge at tip is slower than filling from reservoir). More liquid weight gives more squirt.
- funnel fill ski-pole with inoculant and use twig stopper or thumb over handle-hole if you don't want the whole reservoir deal.
- a couple of spare wire sizes to adjust flow.
- shaking stick up and down works like squirt gun.

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#33 ryanzreality

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 12:24 AM

AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!!!!! I will take 3!

#34 Raoul Duke

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 12:24 AM

You should change your screen name to MacGyver! Cool incognito tool...

#35 Leftover Salmon

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 12:50 AM

Holy Fuckstick:lol: I see why your rep is already Webgod status brother. That is killer. . . Many props for thinking outside the box.:thumbup:

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 03:58 PM

I'm slow today. I can't figure out why there's a wire wrapped around the tip with one end in the hole.

I do have a suggestion - you can get several types of inline tubing clamps that operate with a flick of the thumb.

#37 Erkee

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 07:16 PM

hi SHD, good questions.

Guess my explanation was a bit terse.
I like to edit down too much.

The wire insert and wrap perform a few functions:
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The wire is inserted and wrapped to hold it in place.
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The wrap encounters soil friction and thus jostles the inserted wire each soil entry and retraction.
This action loosens any debris and soil in and around the hole as well as clumps of inoculant trying to come out.
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Wire insertion partially blocks hole to adjust flow rate for various inoculants from spore water to thin slurry.
Different wire size = different flow.
Different inoculant thickness = different flow as well.
It's a balance with a bit of wire.
Gets the job done so far.
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1/16" drill is the smallest common drill bit but by itself is quite big for spore water.
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Reason for no tubing clamp: want excess flow into the hollow pole to build up the fluid level for the 'water-hammer' effect.
In brisk walking, there is a tendency to lift the walking stick gently but place it firmly.
This 'firmness' translates to a swifter downward thrust, testing the firmness of the ground in essence.
With a certain amount of fluid reserve in the pole column, this natural tendency means the mass of fluid is rapidly accelerated then decelerated as the tip pierces the ground causing a rise in pressure at the tip and thus a good squirt just when you want it - into the soil's upper/active root zone -> mass + deceleration + small hole = good squirt.
Also: cost, complexity.

It was magic finding this multi purpose solution to various dilemmas. In this case my fingers were ahead of my brain.
I meditate on various problems daily but many weeks/months pass before any advance is made on any one or other.
Sometimes one advance will synergise with others.
This idea might help with the 'inoculation hammer' I'm thinking aboot.
Spent time today wandering, stopping, staring, muttering. Reverie.

Still a major assumption that this stick will actually improve the odds of getting fruit later...but I'll be using it trying... wish I had more mush types to play with but I'll vip in a month or so and start trading.

enjoy

erk

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 04:06 AM

AWESOME.

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 09:17 PM

Erkee, I merged both of the threads together so part 1 and part 2 are in the same thread.


Hope this has been used since spring is here and you'll give us some updates if possible :)

Edited by Freaky, 13 April 2010 - 09:23 PM.


#40 Soliver

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 09:12 PM

That's too sweet... I do hope you're putting it to good use.

Spread the love, baby!

:)

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