heat doesn't kill all psilly
Posted 06 March 2010 - 07:08 PM
Sometimes I take what I read to be the truth because it seems to be such widely accepted belief, just like the psilly being killed at high heat. Not trying to knock on the people with pro expertise that swear up and down heat kills psilly, but just a warning to those that might not be prepared to have a full blown intense trip, that are curious about trying sauteed mushrooms.
Posted 06 March 2010 - 07:14 PM
Sometimes I take what I read to be the truth because it seems to be such widely accepted belief, just like the psilly being killed at high heat. Not trying to knock on the people with pro expertise that swear up and down heat kills psilly,
People have heated psilocybes for eons ... mushroom tea comes to mind. Also when people make magic honey they often simmer the mushrooms in the honey to allow them to infuse.
I'll bet (like anything else) there is indeed a certain temperature range were magik contents begin to degrade and be destroyed.
What temperature would you estimate you sauted at ? I bet it was fairly low compared to say baking at 350 F in the oven ... which is probably what the other person was referring to.
Posted 06 March 2010 - 08:20 PM
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Posted 06 March 2010 - 10:52 PM
Can't find the thread atm
Posted 07 March 2010 - 12:53 AM
But, I have also made teas where the water was about 180 almsot a boil but, not quite of the same strain and same batch and left them in the water with the heat on for almost a hour and honestly I drank that tea and got nothing, so I made another tea same batch and same strain and let it steep as normal and a great trip. So I gave ette a tea that I simmered or boiled for 45 minutes and she too did not trip, so its my conculison and heat for a small amount of time doesn't reduce potentcy much perhaps some but, its very small but, leave thpse mushies on the same heat for a prolonged period of time like say a half a hour or more and you'll have mushies that are virtually inactive if active at all. Try it and see.
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 03:12 PM
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 04:02 PM
as a rule, i would avoid excessive heat but if you have plenty to sort of play with then why not fry/grill em??
Posted 14 February 2012 - 09:42 PM
Posted 15 February 2012 - 08:31 AM
Boiling some water removes all of the dissolved oxygen from it, so steeping mushrooms in unboiled (but hot) water would likely degrade the actives quicker than water that had been boiled for a few moments before making tea with it. Butter also seals out oxygen, so it makes sense that sauteing them doesn't kill the actives either (plus sauteed mushrooms still contain a considerable amount of water otherwise they'd be fried mushroom crisps when they cooled off). Now that I think about it, fried shroom crisps might be pretty good so long as they were still active... :amazed:
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Posted 15 February 2012 - 09:41 AM
Always thought cooking them to be a fools errand. Oh the possibilities!!
is irish gone? So many cats are gone......Hate when I am gone for long time.
Posted 17 February 2012 - 11:15 PM
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 05:27 AM
at one point a 10 degree increase in heat will increase degredation 10 fold
at a point higher than that you will almost certainly destroy all molecules almost instantly
and at some point below that, you could cook for days and have little degredation
also cooking in butter may have changed things? if it's water, then slight ph changes will affect degredation quicker
Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:52 PM
I put my spoon down in my bowl and looked up to see the window in the door smile.