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Panaeolus cyanescens Jamaican strain!


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#1 empirefire

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 10:40 PM

OK! Here's something fun to look at! These were grown in a dubtub using dehydrated horse manure coir castings and a pinch of gypsum. This is second flush. First was monstrous. Many prints made and on their way to fsre. :)) Thank you Om Shanti for great genetics!
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Posted 13 April 2010 - 10:50 PM

Those look very nice.:headbang:

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 10:54 PM

Great Shots!!!!!!

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Posted 13 April 2010 - 11:17 PM

PAN-Tastic!!!!! :eusa_clap


I'm a fan of dub tub's and pans :D
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 02:23 AM

Nice work man.:) (If mine turn out half this good I'll be stoked.)

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 03:35 AM

:bow: I'm jealous, I've yet to enjoy the beauty of pans. Tricky little buggers!

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 03:48 AM

Great job, Empire!!! :bow: :eusa_clap

How much FAE did you give, and what were the temperatures?

BTW, these seem to me to be quite a bit more potent than Pan. cambodginiensis! :teeth:

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 01:28 PM

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Thanks for the props people. I've run into so much failure previously that just a few successful grows like this make it all worthwhile. I had a terrible time with side pinning for example which almost snuffed out this grow. that's why there are no pics from first flush. I had to tape ANY exposure to light cause just a tiny crack would cause side pinning therefore definitely taking away from the vertical pinning velocity. I'm doing a late casing also with these avoiding any overlay.

One thing I've found out, is once pans go into pinning mode unless you're throwing arctic weather at them they will pin on anything. Casing or no casing.. I have a shelf that I put my tubs on which is like a nonlined martha fruit chamber. I just place the tubs when they're on their spawn run on this shelf under 12on12off lighting. After about as long as it would take it to pin normally in the fruit chamber, it pins with the aluminum still on the tub therefore minimizing overlay to zero. Here's a pic of what it should look like in 1-2 days after finally casing and removing the aluminum foil. Fanning 5 times a day with a piece of cardboard with temps of 75-80. Never misting cause they are pinning the exact moment they are opened up to fae. Crazy right?
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 01:48 PM

Dude, your information is gold! And the grow is beautiful.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 01:56 PM

Very well done man, they looks lovely !! :love:
You're right, when they starts to pinning no one can stop them hehee :dance:
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 02:22 PM

Thank you very much! BTW I thought it was imperative to mention the pic with the few pins in it is a black kow compost type of substrate! The horse manure is far more nutrient intensive and grows it seems more vigorously. We'll see how the black kow fares with this same isolate. So far I love this strain! The potency is off the charts.. I remember when I first saw pins that were about the size of my cambodginiensis at full maturity I picked a couple expecting the same trip. Boy was I in for a lesson of how potent these crazy mofos are! lmfao Exotics ftw! Tampanensis and Atl#7 fruits are going to be my next endeavor.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:14 PM

This thread slipped by me,very nice grow empirefire.:eusa_clap
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Posted 15 April 2010 - 04:16 PM

Wow you really got your Pan's down! Those are as thick as cubes. Must be the horse manure. Great job!

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 04:48 PM

empirefire - be willing to post more pictures if you can. They are so great, man! Seriously, I love them :].

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 08:09 PM

Here's an update on the tub that had the late casing with black kow as a substrate.
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Here is tub that is freaking me out! Also Black Kow but thick substrate.
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What's interesting to notice is the tub that looks like cubes growing is a really thicker substrate than one would normally use for pans. Perhaps I've just disproved a myth that pans substrate is to be thin? It's always stood to be true that the thicker the substrate for cubes the bigger your shrooms. I really can't say for sure as my methods are not solid until I can do this shit blindfolded.

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 08:16 PM

As you can see the one with the late casing has a very thin substrate maybe 1 1/2" depth. So far they're young but definitely not a splitting image of my first tub. The one with the bigguns was like filled halfway with the sub and highly enriched with the horse poo. The pic with pins EVERYWHERE is a thick sub except it's black kow compost. I'm not really trying to do this so I can have this many mushies. I'm just so intrigued by the science behind it and my current stroke of success I will probably have to stop b4 I become mad scientist and ostracize myself from civilization. lol

Edit: Oh and hey guys if you're seeing these pics and wondering what the hell methods I'm using I definitely have a system that is working for me like gangbusters. One thing I'm NOT doing and this is truly just a hint of some things I do. I NEVER dunk..... Period. I used to and seriously if you want to risk contamming your cultures and get your watering completely out of whack. There is definitely a risk of overwatering with pans which slows em down. Between flushes when you've picked all your shrooms, *spray* your casing layer to near saturation. That's all you need to do to keep the cycle running and flushes coming. :-) I gotta write this shit up as a tek.. Everything from how I prepare my popcorn with worm castings to my dextrose malt proportions to come make the best lc time and time again.. Sorry for seeming to go far here but I'm really into it. Crazy me right? :-D

Edited by empirefire, 15 April 2010 - 08:28 PM.

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 04:26 PM

Geez, well after this flush I think i'm going to retire from pans. There's just no sense in it anymore. I'm just glad I could contribute to the science and study of this species. It's a very rare and beautiful specimen.
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#18 Om shanti

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 04:45 PM

Yeah, there should be enough to keep you hallucinating for a good while. ;-) :teeth:
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 05:19 PM

Geez, well after this flush I think i'm going to retire from pans. There's just no sense in it anymore.


Onto woodlo:heart:ers. A life time of adventure!
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#20 empirefire

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 05:55 PM

Yeah what's funny I haven't eaten any. All it takes is for me to bruise one of them and they turn brilliant blue.. I don't think I could handle them personally. Only in rare moments when I need them for medicinal purposes. Not like a day to day battle with invisible demons.. Screw that.

I was thinking about doing some oysters. Those are wood lovers no? I want to know how in the fack you grew those damn tampanensis in your growlog. I'm fascinated to the bone with that species. Do the stones actually generate mycelium if you were to place one on a plate? I actually have some stones of atl#7 I just aquired. I've got a bunch that I shredded and put on some mea agar.. It's been a couple of days now... My only interest is fruiting them. I guess wish me luck. :-) Thank you for taking an interest in my thread btw. It truly is an honor. :bow:
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