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Genocide and human sacrifice in the OT

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#101 Guest_hippie3_*

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Posted 26 April 2004 - 08:59 PM

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Why do you guys put down preachers?<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
do you even have to ask ?
pick up a history book.
i have a problem with the arrogance of anybody who presumes to come to me and tell me that they know god.
the mere act of becoming a preacher
is, to me, presumptuous.
i understand the joys of spreading the good news,
i have felt the 'spirit' too.
but i could never again presume to be a teacher.
what could i teach
but doubt, uncertainty ?
they don't need me for that.

#102 Guest_hippie3_*

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Posted 26 April 2004 - 09:08 PM

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The "for I will gather" part means he will be the dude in charge, and he knows these rapes will happen, therefore he condones/sanctions the acts, and is actually bragging about it.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
you gotta be real careful when you try to use foreign words given in ancient texts
as literally meaning what they appear to say in modern english.
sure, you could interpret that line of text like you said.
but an alternate interpretation could be that jehovah will 'gather the nations'
merely by his continued support of israel.
in other words,
he's not magically summoning people and making them carry out these actions.
rather they will come and do these things because they hate and resent israel
and since israel is god's covenant nation, his chosen people, he's the one who made them a people and a nation,
he is in effect taking certain actions which will inevitably create enemies
so that israel becomes like a lightning rod,
a tempting target that draws the enemies of god
to one last great final battle between
good and evil.
a lightning rod does not create the lightning,
it merely presents itself as itself,
an attractive target.
i think that's the interpretation of that scripture, at least how judaeo-xian apologists might explain it.

(Message edited by admin on April 27, 2004)

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