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[SharkieJones]

A couple of years ago I ground up about an eighth of dried PF mushrooms in a coffee grinder. Filled quite a few capsules with the powder. But they didn't really seem to have any potency. Would grinding affect potency? I also brought along a baggie full unground and it was very potent. Planning a trip crosscountry and need some transporting ideas. Any ideas welcome. Thanks.

[I_am_me]

I'd make chocolates. You grind them up for chocolates but I don't think you lose any potency. Maybe the gelcaps you put them in were time released? Or the dose wasn't good? I do know without putting them in something like chocolate I could see the magic breaking down at a faster rate being ground up. Chocolates last a long time though and easy to make. Several recipes int he archives. Stealthy too. :)

[arezap]

When I used to eat them I ground them up and loaded gelatin capsules. No difference on potency for me. Maybe what you ate throughout the day had an effect? I have lots of stealthy ideas sharkie, how are you traveling to your destination?

[Fester Addams]

Heres one. Get some tea bags, fancy kind. Theres some that are 'sewen' together. They are micro mesh bags... silky smooth. Take out the string, fill with your ingredients and sew it back together.

and then you could stick em in Foodsaver bags to suck all of the air out!

I stored about 4g of ground mush in a 1/2 pint narrow jar for almost a year, and man they were still QUITE potent.

[SharkieJones]

I'm driving cross country, 22 hours of driving. Thanks for the ideas. Chocolate I never thought of that. Would like to hear more stealthy ideas.

[pcubie58]

The following statements are from my experience...
Grinding absolutely does not affect potency.:eusa_snoo This seems totally ridiculous. Throw anything in the blender or grinder and you still have the same basic make-up that you had in the first place except that it now looks different.
I've been storing a pound or so of ground shrooms in the freezer for almost 3 years now and there isn't one bit of degradation that has occured, given the same dosage under the same dietary guidelines, time after time which also puts the kabosh on any ideas of potency loss over time.:eusa_danc
Have you checked out the Sesame Shroom Ball recipe? They're pretty good.
Measure out your powdered dose in grams (multiplied by how ever many people are participating or individually) and put that in a bowl.
Add a pinch of salt (flavor, but not necessary),
add twice the amount of ground up toasted sesame seeds in VOLUME (1 tbsp = 2 tbsp, etc.) You can get toasted sesames in the Oriental section at your local grocery store which saves you from toasting them yourself. You just need a coffee bean grinder.
mix this up then
add enough organic honey to be able to form a ball (individually) or one big huge ball which you can cut in equal pieces (weighing each for consistency) for multiple doses. You then roll the ball in additional whole toasted seeds for that cool outer-effect.

[dead_diver]

AVOID CHOCOLATES!!! The cops are hip to it and are looking for them. Gel caps in a health food supliment bottle would be the way to go. Grinding dried mushrooms won't affect potency. I know everyone says it's impossible but I can get a gram into a 00 size gel cap.I will admit that I do use the blunt end of a drill bit that just fits inside the cap and I chuck it into a drill press with a folded towel to rest the cap on when pressing so the bottom wont flatten out. You don't need a press to do this, it's just easier on the hands but you do need a drill bit or other object that will fit snug into the cap.

[dead_diver]

I also grind the shrooms extra fine with a electric coffee grinder.

[SharkieJones]

Cops are hip to chocolate? Shit. I have a Mycomedicinals bottle from Stamets supplements maybe that would be a perfect cover.

[Carter]

The tea bag idea is brilliant.Why didn't I think of that ha ha.I use the coffee grinder too.It almost looks like cigarette ashes(there's another idea maybe)when finely grounded.

[Hippie3]

see http://mycotopia.net...html?1073075763

[SharkieJones]

Candle tek looks cool but I don't have a drill.

[procell]

From what I've heard around town, capsules haven't had as much success. The general consensus that they seem weaker is due to the fact that the gel caps don't dissolve completely until they pass thru the stomach and don't seem to have the same effect in the intestine. Of course that may have been due to the type of gel caps but it would seem that people are now keeping them in the caps until time then openning them and making tea.

[SharkieJones]

Hmm that seems like a good idea.

[Hippie3]

eh, i don't buy it.
the intestines are where everyone's dose ends up anyway,
time in the stomach itself is quite limited.
we've seen plenty of reports for years
that testify to the power of encapsulated shroom powder
so don't believe some scuttlebutt to the contrary.

[Hippie3]

see http://mycotopia.net...es/5/31569.html
&
http://mycotopia.net...sages/5/21.html

[LethalTr1p]

Just a few days ago my wife and I both dosed a coffee ground eigth. I capsuled mine, she added hers to a glass of limeaid and slammed it. She was full blown tripping in less than 10 minutes. for me it was over an hour and a half. I also felt she got off a lot further than me, but i think it was her freaking out about it that kinda held me back a little. I dont think there is a potency loss, but if you do grind, i'd go with a non capsule method.

[Lazlo]

The only reason some people complain about the potency of capsuled mushrooms is; they were not CRACKER dry before grinding and loading of the capsules. Capsules work fine.