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#1 morthos

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 02:28 AM

Evening! I've only recently read up on the res tek, and am now giving it a go with some popcorn that I have. I've read of popcorn mixed with verm in a 1:1 ratio, but I felt like playing and did a 1:2 corn:verm ratio. Roughly one litre of freshly birthed popcorn after invitro flushes(3 500ml jars) mixed with 2L of moistened verm.

I intend to let it sit for two days before dunking it and casing with verm.

Other than trying a 1:1 ratio before doing this, is there anything else I should be considering? Thx!

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 03:25 AM

it will probibly take more then 2 days for the corn to recover and colonize the verm to... also you shouldn't have to dunk before the flush... thats what the moist verm is for.
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Posted 06 February 2005 - 11:46 AM

I guess using a 1:2 ratio will take longer for the popcorn to bind together; I'll give it 3 days. Didn't think of that last night!

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 11:48 AM

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felt like playing and did a 1:2 corn:verm ratio. Roughly one litre of freshly birthed popcorn after invitro flushes(3 500ml jars) mixed with 2L of moistened verm.

I intend to let it sit for two days before dunking it and casing with verm.
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i'd skip a dunk,
i imagine the verm would wash away as there isn't enough time allowed for it to be knit together by mycellium.
coir is much better in that regard,
sometimes mycellia won't easily colonize verm but it always chews right thru coir

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Posted 06 February 2005 - 11:12 PM

Thanks Hip! I'll grab some coir next time I'm on the road.

Does the res tek make a notable dif with popcorn, or brf?

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 05:25 PM

not brf which already has a 'rez effect' from its' vermiculite
but it is helpful to whole grains like pcorn

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 09:48 PM

Excrement. Thanks Hip!

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Posted 08 March 2005 - 02:01 PM

Morning! Here are a couple of my single-jar popcorn-verm res invitro guys. I'll be harvesting & bleach dunking them later today. What I'm wondering about is how to cover them afterwards though; my popcorn-coir mix caught trich a couple days after dunking - probably from the open air as the lid was left loose.

I'm wondering if I should do one of three things differently this time. First might be to put the lids on tightly after dunking. Second would be to replace the lid with a tyvek 'lid'. Third would be a wax paper lid.

Any suggestions as to a method that will allow some air exchange, keep out trich until I have to loosen the lid for growing mushies, but not let out too much moisture?

Thanks!

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Posted 09 March 2005 - 01:58 PM

Anybody?

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Posted 09 March 2005 - 04:56 PM

when i use tyvec on my cakes they always dry up. it looks like you have some fine fruits there anyway. you can always give a little air exchange without losing so much mositure via hip's invitro tek. nice grow btw.

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Posted 09 March 2005 - 10:37 PM

after the dunk you could always break them apart and make a casing. just case with verm or verm/peat. its just a thought.

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 01:58 PM

It looks like I may have to break them up anyway; a couple of these are not strong structures and partly broke apart during harvesting...

I suppose I'll dunk the chunks and then combine some of them for what would be the third flush from the material - one invitro, one as above.

Thanks!

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 02:01 PM

Could you tell us how those were made exactly?

Nice results for neglecting popcorn.

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 02:30 PM

Sure. From start to finish:

1. Add popcorn to pot, cover with water, boil for 1 hour
2. Empty into strainer, rinse with tap water
3. Put back in pot, cover again, bring to boil for 5 min. to sterilize water some
4. Remove from heat & let cool a little. Cover with saran wrap and put in 'frige for 24hrs
5. Bring to boil again; this makes for good straining and avoids excess moisture problems
6. Strain for 45 min
7. Load into 500ml jars 4/5 full, top with: lid with holes, tyvek, band lid, al foil
8. PC one hour, let cool overnight, tighten lids
9. Inoculate with spores or spawn
10. Leave upright until invitro harvest time
11. Harvest. Break up popcorn & mix with equal volume of moistened verm
12. Let sit for a week in see-thru container, let loosen tops slightly
13. Wait for growth, swap lid for saran-wrap - otherwise mushies would push off lid and dry out from low humidity
14. Wait for harvest time, and harvest

15. DON'T KNOW! Thinking to recrumble & mix together cakes after dunking for another invitro flush. Suggestions welcome!

Hope that answers your Q I_am_Me!

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 03:17 PM

Yea I was mostly interested in 11-15, thanks. :)

Its cool to see it fruit well without an actual casing layer.

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 03:18 PM

I wonder how well it would fruit in a fruiting chamber and a dark container to promote fruits at the top only.

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Posted 10 March 2005 - 03:35 PM

I don't know; I've no fruiting chamber, and am all for 360-pinning at the moment. I guess I'm thinking to max out my harvests. Also, With top-layer pinning, don't you have to try to patch over to get an even pinset to avoid a few pins becoming dominant and the casing not putting out as much in a harvest? I'm also trying to go further with neglect.

Prepare, then just watch until harvest is my ideal.




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