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#1 kocos

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 12:12 PM

Would you belive it? This year is really something! It looks like I found my first hungarian Psilocybe specie. I got a tip from a friend who had notes on this mushroom being found in a certain place in 1994! Well what are the chances? I found the exact location. I wondered around for hours till I found the spot. I managed to pick a few specimens but unfortunatly I was a bit late as most of the fruitbodies had dried out a bit. I did find a few fresh specimens. If there wont be any frost I might go back in a week or so and check for more.
I dont really know what this could be. The woman who found them in 94 noted them down as cyanesence which they obviously arnt. Iam thinking bohemica, or serbice, maybe moravica? Dunno. Could someone help me out please?

Iam printing about 20 caps so Ill hopefully have a few prints to give out to some skilled cultivators. Also planing on sending Workman and Alan a sample. We might have something new here?

A few pictures of the habitat, the obvious blueing and spore color on the spore deposits on the caps. They were growing from woody debris and directly from logs. I even took a small log to the garden in hopes of seeing them pop up there.

So the pictures!

The first specimen I saw
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The avarage size
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Then I found more and more clusters
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A hint to the spore color
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One of the only young specimens I found. Maybe because they blend in so well
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The habitat! Beech trees with beech wood debris and leaf litter
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Then I found a picture perfect log with the mushrooms fruiting off them. I was sooo hapy to find these!
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So what do you people think? What are these? :amazed:

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:12 PM

Damn bro! Very cool! Wish I had an idea of what they are. They are very pretty. :bow:

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:36 PM

Maybe they are ovoids.

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 02:44 PM

Very nice pictures. Don't know much about psilocybes in
your country, but according to Stamets, Ps. Serbica
grows on beech.

Especially loving the log pictures and the nice autumn colors.
Can't wait to get a proper ID...

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:03 PM

This is amazing , and who better to find it than Kocos in his Jedi year ! I especially love the fact that it grows right on logs ! The gills look very cyanofib-like , looks like a cross between that and the Friscosa.

Thing is I don't see much bluing or hear you mention it. Species like azure go more black than blue , but Cyans and Frisco's (as you know) blue a brilliant indigo flag ... did you see any bluing ?

Is it possible (if there is signs of bluing) to have a guinea pig eat a small bit (say .2 gram dry or such) ? Just a thought , not pressuring ... inquiring minds want to know.

This reminds me of NightFlyer's Austrian wild woodlovers find Bohemica.

Awesome bro ... keep us posted !

:heart: :bow: :heart:

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:10 PM

very exciting!:headbang:

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:11 PM

Looks like its: Psilocybe serbica var. bohemica

http://mushroomobserver.org/55058

Pics of Serbica var. Bohemica ...

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#8 kocos

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:13 PM

Damn bro! Very cool! Wish I had an idea of what they are. They are very pretty. :bow:


Thanks man! We will find out soon enough!

Maybe they are ovoids.



Ive never seen ovoids in person so I couldnt say, but something tells me they arnt. They have to be one of the described european Psilocybes or something new?

Very nice pictures. Don't know much about psilocybes in
your country, but according to Stamets, Ps. Serbica
grows on beech.

Especially loving the log pictures and the nice autumn colors.
Can't wait to get a proper ID...


Cool I didnt know that. I wanted to get that book but never did. A microscopic analysis will tell us more I hope!


This is amazing , and who better to find it than Kocos in his Jedi year ! I especially love the fact that it grows right on logs ! The gills look very cyanofib-like , looks like a cross between that and the Friscosa.

Thing is I don't see much bluing or hear you mention it. Species like azure go more black than blue , but Cyans and Frisco's (as you know) blue a brilliant indigo flag ... did you see any bluing ?

Is it possible (if there is signs of bluing) to have a guinea pig eat a small bit (say .2 gram dry or such) ? Just a thought , not pressuring ... inquiring minds want to know.

This reminds me of NightFlyer's Austrian wild woodlovers find (Bohemica) , but looks different.

Awesome bro ... keep us posted !

:heart: :bow: :heart:


Thanks bro, you probably understand how thrilled I was! I mean this really is a magical year for me!
I thought the blueing was evident on the pictures, pretty much every stipe was colored blue and even some of the caps had blue dots on it from rain and weathering.

I just checked the tray to see how they look now and some of the stems have turned pretty much black. They are starting to resemble pans now as they are drying out. These are magic bro I know it. There are prints being made, so if you want to try these out let me know!

I have a feeling these are fairly potent. Ive probably got a few grams here once they dry so Ill try them out sooner or later. I just want to have a rough Idea what they are first.

Ill contact Workman and Alan when time permits and send them each a sample.

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:16 PM

You may have wrestled down one of the big ones Kocos ! Wild-crafting a potent psilocybe ... that grows on trees !!!

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:17 PM

I have a feeling these are fairly potent.


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Soon Alan or Warrior , or another guru will weigh-in and tell you what you found there. It looks a lot like Bohemica though eh !?

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#11 demetrius shardson

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:26 PM

ooo wow those are beautiful wondefrful find

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:27 PM

Looks like its: Psilocybe serbica var. bohemica

http://mushroomobserver.org/55058

Pics of Serbica var. Bohemica ...


Looking at those pictures it seems like a pretty good mach! Any info on the potency of these mushrooms?
Thanks for the info bro! :)

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:31 PM

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Soon Alan or Warrior , or another guru will weigh-in and tell you what you found there. It looks a lot like Bohemica though eh !?



:lol::lol: You anwsered my question as I was typing it! :lol::lol:

thanks again :heart:

So these little things are pretty fucking potent huh? Oh my :amazed:

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 03:41 PM

So these little things are pretty fucking potent huh? Oh my


Well now if P. Cyans are supposedly a few notches below ... :mistrust:

Psilocybe moravica Borovička var. moravica for comparison:


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*Paging* Mr. Rockefeller ...

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 05:40 PM

They are Psilocybe arcana Borovicka and Hlavacek

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 05:45 PM

Finding a psilocybe in the deeper woods is amazing! almost unheard of.
From across the world Kocos I bow to you :bow::eusa_clap:headbang:

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 07:40 PM

They are Psilocybe arcana Borovicka and Hlavacek
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How did you decide on that species?

According to Boravicka 2008, Psilocybe arcana has an obtuse umbo, a feature that I do not see in these photos. Also the stalk does not get thinner at the base nor thicker at the apex, both features of P. arcana.

It looks a lot like the pictures of Psilocybe serbica var. bohemica or Psilocybe bohemica.

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 08:19 PM

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Kocos, thank you for sharing your amazing find, your photos are spectacular.

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 10:44 PM

Impressive find and awesome pictures kocos:eusa_clap

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Posted 20 October 2010 - 11:12 PM

"I would almost be afraid to see anyone eat any of those ":amazed:




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