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#21 hyphaenation

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:05 AM

Some interesting reading:

European Woodlovers-info


[PDF] New variety of Psilocybe moravica and notes on Psilocybe bohemica

[PDF] OBSERVATIONS ON THE PSILOCYBE CYANESCENS COMPLEX OF EUROPE

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The wood-rotting bluing Psilocybe species in Central Europe

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#22 lazyrainbow

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 12:46 AM

I kind of said that as a joke!
Thanks for the great info!:drk:

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Posted 21 October 2010 - 06:39 PM

Kocos!

Good Job there man! I just found this incredible thread. Been a while since ive been on.

Had to harvest a bear and been picking mad chanterelles and lobsters! Havn to much work and fun to even do anything else.

Wehn I started reading this thread I was thinking that would be a very potent mushroom... very potent.. Funny that it turned out to be.

So any word back??

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 05:21 PM

Thanks for the comments people :love:

Ive got a small pile dried now. Also managed to take about 10 light prints which I divided in half so ive got 20 half prints. Still havnt contacted Workman, me and the dog have been too busy diging up truffles. We found a whole pound yesterday! There is a crazy story to the day too so Ill be posting that later.

Anyhow the dried mushrooms have turned quite dark despite drying out in a few hours, I mean some of the stems are completly black. Probably lost a lot of magic there but Iam not to eager to do a bioessay just yet. I need a few more gentler friscosa or cyan rides before I indulge in these.

Ill keep you people posted on the progress!

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Posted 22 October 2010 - 09:18 PM

I hear time and time again that P. Cyans lose there potency upon drying and sitting. I can tell you that my friends and I have done dozens and dozens of experiments over the years and it is not true , they do hold their potency in a bag even over a couple years ... at least in our experience.

I've heard the same thing about Azures (and likely Bohemica as well) , but until you try them fresh , and try them dry , and eat them over the course of a year ... then your in a position to know. When people make blanket statements in this hobby , you just got to find out for yourself. Often they are wrong.

All psilocybes should be dried cracker dry , and stored in as air-free , dark , cool place as possible ... woodlovers are no different , but actually I find they hold their potency over time more-so than cubensis. Maybe its because they have skyrocking amounts of magik to begin with.

One of the most important factors is the time of harvest. With some species , like the black staining , higher level woodies , particularly Azures & Friscosa etc. You need to harvest the fruits before they "rot" and deteriorate and get taken over by worms. When they get rotten , the high gets degraded accordingly. Aborts , young specimens , and fully open , but not rotten adults are the ones that make for a "good trip".

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 03:41 AM

I cant say for now as Ive only tried them fresh. Iam with you none the less, unless the mushrooms are abused over and over again they stay relativly oxidation free which would mean more goodies are left in them.
Dried cyans smell awesome actually, a lot better than cubes!

Ive got my mushrooms dry as bone, and vacume sealed in bags, then rebaged, and finally jared up. I have them in a secure location in a cellar where temps range arund 5-10 c year round.

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 10:59 AM

Beautiful find Kocos! Good vibes your way for getting good prints!

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 04:45 PM

Awesome finds kocos, I look forward to seeing
more opinions as to what these are!

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#29 koldj

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 04:49 PM

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 11:01 PM

Great find, Kocos! :amazed:


I'm wondering if this mushroom's stem butt would take to some moist egg carton or cardboard.

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 11:08 PM

I can't state again the amazingness and importance of the fact that this species fruits directly off rotting logs. There are not to many psilocybes that do that to begin with , let alone super potent ones. A great many grow on woody chips and material , but not fruiting right off mossy old logs.

The Quebecensis is one i've read about , but it's much smaller and doubtfully as potent as something like the Bohemica.

You could make sawdust spawn or plugs and go around drilling & filling holes with this species in stumps and logs , the way you would oysters ....

Way to go Kocos !

Good eye !

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Posted 13 November 2010 - 02:17 PM

SWIM is sure that he can find this species where SWIM lives. There are several large beech forests in his country, yet there are no confirmed finds of any woodloving psilocybes in there.




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