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#41 Irishlion

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 01:37 AM

Great job jim, I love watching you grow. Any pics of the full flush?

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 09:47 AM

thanks for this wj. even now when using a new wood source i have my doubts over weather it is a suitable wood or not, do i steer clear of soft woods? or simply what defines a hard or soft wood. ive read alot of contradictory information on the subject and im no closer to knowing.

ive used some soft wood pellets in very successful edible grows and most wood lovers seem to like the stuff. so now i have a policy that if it works it works wont know till i try.

currently been using a hemp based horse bedding for all my wood lover grows. toss in some coir or straw and just about everything will fruit from it. plus its really cheap for a huge bale.

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Posted 12 April 2011 - 01:52 PM

Any updates on this project waylit? :amazed:
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Posted 12 April 2011 - 02:21 PM

Yes I've heard colinisation is sped up with partially composted hardwood chips. Makes sense to me as this is the sort of debris our woodloving friends would be clearing up on the forest floors in the wild and partly broken down would be easy for them to rip through.
Nice find Waylit though it pains me having to find a UK equivalent to all the supplies you ever mention :eusa_thin

That's what I thought as welll. SWIM has 2 huge sacks of woodshavings aging in the basement.
BTW - I even believe that those Friscos could fruit right off just about anything... Straw might be just as good or even hpoo? Who knows. They may turn out being the woodloving equivalent of cubes.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 08:45 PM

Not sure why folks have thought you can't grow wood lovers on coniferous substrates. Seen quite a few projects of Pleurotus growing on pine and their needles, through the years! I'll have to try this out, Jim. Thanks.

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Posted 17 April 2011 - 05:09 PM

Great to see you laz!

There's just been debates on what the psilocybe wls would be able to grow on. Naysayers and all that. I've always been a believer. Too many wild shots full of needles and cones and what not.

This one just kinda is a proof of concept/ neener neener we were right grow report. Lol.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:06 PM

Good to see everyone! Tryin' to get around more, but have just been super busy.

I didn't mean "woodlovers", meant hardwood lovers. See what you mean! How are these panning out from a fruiting standpoint, Jim? On par with hardwood substrates?

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:09 PM

think i saw a lowes commercial advertising a sale on this stuff
at least in my area
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Posted 22 April 2011 - 03:29 AM

I just inoculated some of this stuff with reishi in a tub. Its a bit of an experiment, I'm very curious to see it turns out... didn't pasteurize or sterilize, just used straight out of the bag mixed with some water. I'll post pics in another thread as things progress.

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 11:19 AM

Greetings All,

this is a very exciting and informative thread!

I'm completely inexperienced with wood lovers, only getting as far as colonizing some cardboard many years ago with wavy cap myc. But I'm now living someplace where outdoor beds are a real possibility, and this alternate substrate appears to have some potential.

I haven't read WLJ's TEK on azures--but I certainly plan to soon.

Here's a newbie question--since this stuff colonizes so quickly, would it be possible to inoc with a massive LC? Or do the undigested sugars become fuel for contams (given you're using this stuff right out of the bag)? I know--there's probably someone out there going "Everyone knows you can't inoc a wood-based substrate with LC. DUH!" :eusa_wall

Anyhow--marvelous thread. And great questions/contributions along the way.

Thanks waylitjim for sharing the GOODNESS! :bow:


Cheers!

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 11:48 AM

You could inoculate with an LC, but not right out of the bag. You would have to sterilize it first.

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 07:58 PM

this is a great thread, thus far.. typical thread by wlj that anyone can bank on. I plan to test some tamarack chips this season, i'll report back w/ that concept.


I was really surprised to see cedar in that mix.

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 10:00 PM

Heya jim, that reminds me. I have a big bag of alder chips with cyanescens colonizing on it, rightn ow it's just sitting outside open wit some holes in it, is there a better way i cuold be colonizing this?

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 10:16 PM

Here's another tester tray starting to fruit. Same substrate.
Temps have been in the high 60's the last few days.
Gotta love Friscosa.

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1304392458

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Posted 03 May 2011 - 11:48 PM

Here's a fun experiment. I can't wait to see this thing fruit.

-I took a 12x8" burlap sack and filled it half way with Nature Scapes..

-I added a layer of friscosa spawn, and topped it off with more mulch.

-I sewed the bag shut, and added a string so I could hang it up.

-This plump sack was submerged into a bucket of water for hydration.

-I then hung it up, with plastic over it to keep in moisture.

*Nothing was pasteurized in the process. The mulch and burlap will completely colonize, and should put off some beautiful "hanging mushrooms". Summer is coming, not sure when....but it will fruit. :D

http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1304484428

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 08:39 AM

Awesome thread! I'm going to have a go at this with my ovoids.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 11:13 AM

Love that tenacious Frisco mycelium ...

Amazing. :bow:

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Posted 06 May 2011 - 11:37 PM

Waylit, your wood lover threads give me wood!

SCHWING!

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Posted 08 May 2011 - 11:43 PM

Here's a fun experiment.

-I took a 12x8" burlap sack and filled it half way with Nature Scapes..
-I added a layer of friscosa spawn, and topped it off with more mulch.
-I sewed the bag shut, and added a string so I could hang it up.
-This plump sack was submerged into a bucket of water for hydration.
-I then hung it up, with plastic over it to keep in moisture.

*Nothing was pasteurized in the process. The mulch and burlap will completely colonize, and should put off some beautiful "hanging mushrooms". Summer is coming, not sure when....but it will fruit. :D



Oh. My. God! :amazed: I can't wait to see this fruit!

Edited by waylitjim, 12 November 2011 - 03:24 PM.


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Posted 19 June 2011 - 04:56 PM

*Nothing was pasteurized in the process. The mulch and burlap will completely colonize, and should put off some beautiful "hanging mushrooms". Summer is coming, not sure when....but it will fruit. :D


Waylit:

That sack looks interesting, I wonder if you have a running race between, on the one hand the mycelium eating enough of the burlap to affect its structural integrity (and breaking), and on the other, fruiting.

I have to say, I think most of the resin in a conifer is in its wood, not its bark, which may be why it colonises quickly. But I would have thought it would have less nutrients than wood. I have seen Psilocybe subaeruginosa fruiting from dead blackberry canes that have got covered in moss. Perhaps that's another possible source of material for someone to experiment with: there's no lack of blackberries, at least Down Under!

A question: Have you tried sugar cane bagasse? I have seen the thread using shredded bamboo, and it got me thinking that sugar cane might not be that different.




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