Posted 11 April 2006 - 01:29 PM
I am in need of good stealth ideas. Of course, a certain measure of inconspicuity is always in order (as this hobby is of questionable legality where some of us reside). In my case, however, the "co-residents" of my household would not take kindly to propagating the magic. I have heard the invitro is pretty awesome, but the logistics, methinks, would be a bitch to work out in my situation. I.E., I have no PC, jars would be a pain in the ass, and how the hell do you get them out anyway? With a fork?
I have been looking at ideas such as the log tek (terribly conspicuous), and growing in Mycobags. What are the ramifications of the bags? It seems from advertisements that they colonize and fruit all in the bag with out ANY attention? A pipe dream? According to the site, you inject and periodically shake, and with time.. mushrooms!
I also thought about doing an outside grow, but it would have to be incospicuous as hell. Not necessarily stealthy, just not obviously man-made. I have neighbors and would prefer that they not see a little tarp-covered, picket-fenced, garden-like bed of illegal mushies :eusa_thin. All in all, it doesn't seem as feasible as a stealthy indoor grow. I really think I'm leaning towards those bags at this point, but I need to know more details from anyone with experience there.
Thanks! And as always, safe home.
Posted 11 April 2006 - 02:51 PM
Posted 11 April 2006 - 03:22 PM
As Hippie3 puts it: "this method is designed first and foremost for the hobby grower who is primarily interested in the product, rather than the growing process. It isn't pretty, but it does work great."
Posted 11 April 2006 - 03:33 PM
Posted 11 April 2006 - 03:34 PM
Posted 11 April 2006 - 03:44 PM
For stealth sclerotia forming strains are supposed to be good too, and a prestailized bag would be made to order for that.
Posted 11 April 2006 - 07:00 PM
Posted 12 April 2006 - 12:28 AM
Anyway, would it be best to use completely full jars, as if I were using the PF tek? Or those partially full rye-berry jars that are normally used for spawn? I understand the need for light and all that jazz, lol... I have grown mushrooms a number of times, just always been PF tek. Never done anything like casing, logs, invitro (intentionally), or otherwise.
P.S. I have one of those huge black trunks, and yes it is lockable, but locks don't stop people in a position of authority. I won't say who, as I'm not sure what many of your positions would be on this, but think real hard who those "co-residents" are and you'll understand better.
Posted 12 April 2006 - 07:53 AM
if that vendor works out his jar return policy he wouldn't end up with an evergrowing stockpile of jars.
dunno about you
but ain't no way
i'd mail someone
used jars with my prints/dna
Posted 12 April 2006 - 09:36 AM
Posted 12 April 2006 - 09:42 AM
Posted 12 April 2006 - 05:55 PM
Posted 13 April 2006 - 12:37 AM
A few other questions: Were I to overcome this paranoia and attempt a storage facility grow, what would be an ideal method? I have no idea what LED is, and if someone could point me to a post (I searched and turned up nothing), I would be much appreciative. What about hiding it within the unit? Such as locking it up in a trunk, toolbox, or what-have-you? Doing so would make control of factors such as humidity, temp, and air exchange difficult, would it not? One of my favorite ideas thus far is a log tek, but how feasible (and safe) is that inside of a storage unit?
This idea is appealing to me more and more every day so all insights greatly appreciated!!!:hippie:
Posted 13 April 2006 - 08:38 AM
for example SWIM rented a 10x10 foot storage cubical
and noticed that in the mornings various contractor-types would arrive
and load their equipment in their trucks so that's when SWIM would harvest and remove debris.
anything needing to come OUT was placed inside large LOCKED footlockers and loaded into the truck.
likewise SWIM noticed same contractors returning late in the afternoon
after work to place their equipment back in storage so that's when
anything needing to go IN was taken, again in large LOCKED footlockers.
a look-out was posted to keep an eye out for strangers approaching
and the lockers already there would be opened for harvesting, etc.
a few shelves were set up and a folding table and chair, etc.
adapter [screwed into overhead light] with plug-ins was used for power.
dress, look and act appropriately,
blend in and avoid contact & loitering.
have a plausible cover-story
and be aware-
many facilities have video surveillance
so spot the cams and avoid them.
ballcap and sunglasses advised
esp. as entering/leaving facility.
extra safety tip -
get set of 'extra' vehicle tags,
not traceable to you,
glue magnet on back
and stick on before approaching facility.
ALWAYS pay rent on time,
dispose of trash properly -[off-site]
and in general be a 'good' customer.
as for led = light emiting diode
but i recommend el wire instead
battery powered and already pre-wired
so no engineering is needed.
possible source for el wire = http://www.elwirebes...com/elwire.html
Posted 13 April 2006 - 12:20 PM
Posted 13 April 2006 - 03:37 PM
Over the next week or two, start cooking dishes with various legal commercial species, like fresh shiitake, and mushrooms other than the white button type.
Talk about them with your room-mates like you're so in love with the mushrooms you looked up online how to grow them at home.
Describe the techniques to your room-mates until they re so sick n tired of hearing about it, they tell you to STFU.
Then start growing whatever shroom you want, and point your tubs out often to your room-mates, to keep them as uninterested as possible.
Posted 13 April 2006 - 04:14 PM