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#1 TripTout

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 03:16 PM

I've got some presterilized bags and an EQ syringe I'm gonna 'noc them up with later today. I was wondering though, is it recommended to inject into a blob of silicon applied to the bag, or is the poke and tape method usually sufficiently effective? I'm going to be using a glovebox, open hand-hole with curtain type with medical gloves. Thanks for the help.

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 05:58 PM

I've found the poke and tape method to work fine for myself. Silicone on bags hasn't worked for me the one time I tried it because it didn't stick to the bag well. Not to mention in a glovebox you're working in fairly calm air and the hole in the bag is very small.

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Posted 12 April 2006 - 08:01 PM

Poke and tape, especially in a glove box, should work just fine. If you've got a silicone adhesive around already (or you are paranoid), it certainly can't hurt.

Don't try to use a silicone caulk for this one, though. It will peel right off a spawn bag.

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Posted 13 April 2006 - 12:20 PM

Cool, getting ready to take care of those things today. I'm definitely gonna just poke n tape. Thanks for the advice y'all, I'll try to get pictures in the Photo forum after noticable growth begins.

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Posted 13 April 2006 - 03:50 PM

I use regular tape... wipe the bag with alchy.. inject, tape and you're good to go. If you want, you can get foam tape. Self healing, just like silicone, but it wont fall off the bag.

#6 Hippie3

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Posted 13 April 2006 - 04:49 PM

one doesn't use silicon caulk
as it's not sticky.
one uses silicon ADHESIVE which is sticky
then problem is solved.
it can be pried off, of course, but so can tape.
but i've got silicon blobs sticking to plastic
over 6 months old and
still good.

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Posted 13 April 2006 - 04:59 PM

one doesn't use silicon caulk
as it's not sticky.
one uses silicon ADHESIVE which is sticky
then problem is solved.
it can be pried off, of course, but so can tape.
but i've got silicon blobs sticking to plastic
over 6 months old and
still good.

can you get that in calk gun tubes if so what brand?

#8 Hippie3

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Posted 13 April 2006 - 05:08 PM

Permatex's RTV silicon adhesive
auto parts store
http://mycotopia.net...achmentid=19835

that kind doesn't need any caulk gun, etc.
it's internally-pressurized and squirts out as needed
then re-seals. about $15 for enough to make 1000 blobs.

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Posted 13 April 2006 - 05:42 PM

cool thanks ill give it a try

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Posted 13 April 2006 - 11:26 PM

Alright so 'noced up 5 mycrobags w/ Cambo cubes and 5 bags w/ Ecuador. Send good thoughts my way, I could really use a little success this time around.

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Posted 13 April 2006 - 11:46 PM

will do... good luck.. may the myco gods be with you. :)

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Posted 14 April 2006 - 06:51 AM

bon voyage mon frere

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Posted 15 April 2006 - 10:31 AM

addendum
tip-
if you use the silicon adhesive
use a good-sized blob, roughly
1 inch across
smooth/flatten with a wet wipe
you want maximum surface contact
so it sticks well

#14 Hippie3

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Posted 16 April 2006 - 04:08 PM

crap
i just made a liar out of myself-
a silicon port just came off the bag
as the needle was being withdrawn
so hey
maybe tape is a good idea.
:gah:

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Posted 16 April 2006 - 06:27 PM

A small dab of liquid dish detergent on a fingertip works wonders for smothing out silicone without sticking to it. Just a little tip from my painter days when I used to caulk with silicone based products...

#16 TripTout

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 03:02 AM

Should I knead the bags and loosen the PF style material up, or leave it in brick form?

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 03:19 AM

pf mix likes to be fluffy
http://mycotopia.net...=1&d=1109797879 however, there should be no air pockets

take care of any of these matters before innoculation next time
there are a few bag teks in the archlves/vaults that go into detail

#18 Hippie3

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 06:12 AM

once colonization is well underway
you can knead the bag to help
distribute the mycellia and speed colonization
like shaking a jar of grain.

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 06:05 PM

crap
i just made a liar out of myself-
a silicon port just came off the bag
as the needle was being withdrawn
so hey
maybe tape is a good idea.
:gah:



i fixed my minor malfunction
by combining the best of both worlds,
a blob of silicon so it's self sealing
covered with a nice wide piece of tape
to hold it in place.

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 06:10 PM

schwing!

kinda tape is that?
that the expensive reinforced packing/shipping tape?

looks pretty damn good!

be well




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