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#21 rocketman

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 08:53 PM

i think at different times during the year the water treatment guys have to add more chlorine due to turbidity in the lake. this may well be one of those times doob. bugs were the first thing to check out, because thats the easiest. keep us posted.

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 09:02 PM

* put my fresh"they looked so good * could not believe they came in the mail" cuttings into tap[city]water straight from my mentor. * changed the water every 2 days, planted @ 2-1/2 weeks. Roots aprox 1 1/2 ". spots @ 3 weeks.

The good news
My Digital pocket PH meter came today!!!
Good for all interests?
[Re Read hipp tek]
So how should * buffer down my H2O?

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 09:32 PM

You know, water could be the reason. As seasons change and temperatures change the bacteria which must be removed/killed by means of chlorination and filtration will change. If the plant is currently having problems with bacteria and such they can compensate by adding more chlorine. It also makes a big difference if your water is taken from the surface such as a lake or groundwater. Extreme temperature changes and the speed at which the plant adjusts will determine this.

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 09:42 PM

are you misting the leaves then with fresh tapwater too procell ?
are these indoors or out ?
any foliar feeding ?

Humm, well let's see.
They were planted in pots from rooted cuttings 3 weeks ago (March Madness, Thanks Doob and Hip). They sit next to a window and were watered with ph5 water that has sat at out for days. Now I know that the guys here are adding a type of chlorine that does not evaporate. (We got something in the mail about it a year or so ago.) Though I doubt Doob and I are on the same water system, so I am inclined to rule that out. No nutes, misting, or foliar feeding. I have one sitting out and one in a humidity dome. Both are showing the same signs. Since they are fairly new plants it could still be due to adjusting to the new environment but I'm beginning to think it's over watering stress. Though in most plants over watering causes it to yellow.

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 09:46 PM

Looks like the fungus Black Spot.

http://mrec.ifas.ufl...ts/rh_93_12.htm
http://ohioline.osu..../3000/3072.html

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 09:50 PM

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 10:02 PM

so procell's came from doob,
so doob may be infested.

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Posted 17 April 2006 - 10:54 PM

Ahhhhhhh, now maybe we are getting somewhere with this

At this time, iprodione (Chipco 26019) is the only fungicide registered for use on salvias in Florida which could give good control of this disease. Be sure to test all fungicides for safety before broad scale use on your crops and follow labels for rates and intervals.

I will try this if I can find it . . .
Thanks Sucker

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:00 PM

* put my fresh"they looked so good * could not believe they came in the mail" cuttings into tap[city]water straight from my mentor. * changed the water every 2 days, planted @ 2-1/2 weeks. Roots aprox 1 1/2 ". spots @ 3 weeks.



Is there new growth on them?

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:01 PM

Looks like the fungus Black Spot.


I thought that too, but no signs on any new leaves, only the older ones.

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:02 PM

chaos too.
you must be the source doob, seems to me.
the one common factor.

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:04 PM

so procell's came from doob,
so doob may be infested.


lol, I dunno about "infested". lol :)

What I'm thinking now if all these came from me, is that is was something with my tap water b4 I sent these out. All of the ones I have here showing those spots are recoving now that I am not using water right from the tap. I'm letting it sit at least 12hrs b4 using it.

I'm curious if the ones sent out are showing new growth, halted stalled growth, dying off, or what...

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:09 PM

procel & chaos-
are the spots on leaves the plants had upon arrival
or on new growth ?

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:16 PM

are the spots on leaves the plants had upon arrival
or on new growth ?

Humm, not sure what is really new growth yet. I'll have to wait and watch . . .

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:20 PM

I just checked on my babies. All of the new growth does not have any spots. Also the spots on the old leaves have become less dark.

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#36 doobydoobydoo

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:43 PM

I just checked on my babies. All of the new growth does not have any spots. Also the spots on the old leaves have become less dark.


Yeah, those aren't looking too bad. Thanks for the pics. :) I was getting worried there for a moment. I think all should recover well.




A few said they were near windows, are they getting just indirect light, or a few hours of direct light as well? A couple hours of full sun will be good for them, but don't cook them. ;) Just 2-3hrs or so, until they take that is...

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 07:17 PM

Ya know the smallest of the three has been getting a lot more direct light than the others. When I moved Them to the best windows in the house I put the smallest in the best spot. Windows are south facing and in the corner of the house so they get morning & evening direct sun.
O I forgot a pic of my middle son.

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Posted 18 April 2006 - 09:30 PM

Windows are south facing and in the corner of the house so they get morning & evening direct sun.


Sounds perfect. I kept some in a south facing window all winter and they grew terrific!

As new growth starts, if the leaves seem too be growing very light green or yellow like, they most likely will need some fertilizer, mainly nitrogen to help darken them up.

Also, it is good to let the soil dry out well enough b4 watering again to allow oxygen to reach the root system. Just b4 the plants start to wilt and get stressed.

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 06:32 PM

:love:

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 02:25 AM

Hi procell. I grow sally to, and i fugure that the black spots are stress, and thats pretty normal. My plants get stressed as I move them, they get to much light(strong light, I just moved them from directliy under the 400W hps to a little further away so that they still benifit from the hps but won`t get burned or stressed), if i repot them(add new soil, change pot etc.) or if they have just arrived.
Just give your sally a little time to recover, give her enough light but take care so that she does not get burned, and do not give her any nutrients just yet.
When you re-pot a plant and add new soil, wait 3 weeks before adding nutrients to her water. Or, if jou see the leaves getting lighter green or yellowish and you know you havent been fertilizing her for a month or so, it pobably ok to start doing it now.

But, for now, relax, and sally will propably do the same.




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