Q&A MegaThread: Stomach pains and mushrooms
Posted 17 April 2006 - 05:06 PM
Posted 17 April 2006 - 06:15 PM
Posted 17 April 2006 - 06:33 PM
If gas from beans isn't an issue for you, your problem probably isn't caused by the sugars, but the fiber in the mushroom material. You can't solve a fiber digestion issue with enzymes, but you can solve it by avoiding consumption of the fibers. How? Make your mushrooms into tea and don't consume the mush/grit, but filter it out.
To make tea, put enough water in the microwave (or a sauce pot) to make a glass of tea. Heat the water to boiling and then remove it from the heat. Don't boil the mushrooms. Dried mushrooms should be powdered (coffee grinder works great). Fresh mushrooms should be finely diced with a sharp chef's knife. You want to expose as much mushroom surface area as possible to the water. A squirt of lemon juice (about 1/2 tablespoon) will help to get more magic into the water.
Add the appropriate amount of powdered (or diced) mushrooms and let them steep for about 15 minutes. Stir the tea a few times during this time. Using a coffee filter (or an old t-shirt), filter out all the solid material. Sip the tea slowly over the course of 5-10 minutes.
Soy lecithin capsules can also help to ease digestion problems. If you note any liver discomfort, silymarin (milk thistle) capsules can help. Take soy or silymarin with a full glass of water about 1 hour before dosing.
Hope this helps!
Posted 17 April 2006 - 07:01 PM
Two or three charcoal capsules stop a bad burrito in its tracks, or the morning symphony of mushroom gas. It's found at good health food stores, and is the same stuff they make you drink at the ER if you get poisoned before they pump your stomach. It locks up toxins so you crap them out instead of absorbing them, best eaten as long after eating mushrooms as possible. The label also warns against eating charcoal an hour or two before or after taking any medication as the med will be adsorbed. (yes, adsorbed).
You (any/all of you) won't believe how much of your past stomach suffering was preventable, once you start hitting back with activated charcoal. Miraculous. Can save marriages.
Posted 17 April 2006 - 09:56 PM
Posted 17 April 2006 - 10:12 PM
Posted 18 April 2006 - 03:19 AM
If this is really an issue you can also do an alcohol extraction which has been reported to cause no upset whatsoever.
Many good suggestions in this thread.
Posted 18 April 2006 - 08:42 AM
The gas, I get gas, but I burp mostly until it is digested.
The Beano is a good idea, I may try that next time.
Chocolates are a great additon. I like hot cocoa instead of tea. I use the blender to blend up freshies in hot cocoa and it works great, dry powdered mushies make great trips with little discomfort, and hot cocoa with steeped mushies(I haven't done) made like tea without the mushroom material may work great. Chocolate is hard for our bodies to digest also. So, don't take too much chocolate in as it may take a while for digestion to occur.
I think its really interesting how different everybody's bodies and minds react to the magic mushrooms. That is what is so intriguing to me about them. I am going to try an alcohol extraction for Weedy to see if it helps him with his stomach upset problems.
This is a great thread, thanks for all the info and input!!!!
Posted 18 April 2006 - 09:03 AM
I personally never get sick....maybe a little upset stomach once in a very great while, but I'm usually fine. It's never made me puke though.
Things that my friends do that help them through it:
Smoke a little herb before and after eating them,
Drink warm 7up/ginger ale during and after eating them,
reading a magazine until it kicks in to keep your mind off of the upset stomach.
They say the warm 7up/ginger ale really helps calm their stomach the best out of all of those....but again, everyone is different.
I personally think a lot of it is mental, and the warm 7up is just a placebo.....but I won't get into that:) If it works...go for it.
Posted 18 April 2006 - 09:29 AM
Posted 18 April 2006 - 03:15 PM
Posted 18 April 2006 - 03:34 PM
Posted 18 April 2006 - 04:52 PM
i like the taste and i think absorbtion begins in the mouth
also the enzymes in the mouth may help wenn wery well chewn
i never had problems and allways do that way,but everybody is diferent
a god way a friend of mine found is making chocolat
grind the shrooms until they are powder
heat schocolat until its liquid,i used kichen chocolat
let it cool ,just before it starts to get hard again add the shrooms
its mostly not sweet,so add shugar i added almonds and raisins too
i used 0.6g per 3x3cm i found god effects from the chocolat i was surprised
excuse my writing errors
Posted 18 April 2006 - 05:43 PM
I've been biting my nails since I could walk and with a few years of boarding school food in high school, shrooms dont scare my stomach! haha No but after seeing a mass poll on here or on the shhh..shroomery where tea came up trumps. I think a bunch of crampy people tried it and it worked in most cases. I got a freind who's stomach dies a terrible death everytime on mushies and I suggested it and it was the trick.
Rooibos teabag,mushies, pot, 1 1/2 cups water, simmer on stove for 10 mins.. drink and eat/chew well:) soggy mushies after tea is finished.
I like condensed milk or honey and milk with the tea. There is NOO way your stomach can refuse rooibos tea and condensed milk ( a south african camping tradition) Its that good, heavenly...Nooo way haha
I've always had mushies like this and it kicks me HARD haha, although I eat em plain, never puked either way.
I think that some people have trouble breaking down the compact cellulose in the shroom which may with other factors give some the cramps, wind (I get wicked shroom farts though) and nausea.
Just spent easter weekend with a few thousand others (3 or 5000+ ?? who knows) camped in apple and pear orchards in the most beatiful setting in a forest next to a river in the mountains etc... a 3 day psy trance festival. Hippies, models, rastas, yuppies, ankle snappers and grannies, all races. How many kilos of mushies got consumed? how much tea? how many upseat stomachs? vearing off path sorry....haha
Posted 18 April 2006 - 05:47 PM
Buchu tea with honey and squeeze of half a lime..
for your stomach.
You'll thank me. haha
My posts should read like 30 DLB posts haha oops
Posted 18 April 2006 - 05:47 PM
Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:06 PM
Is there something I can do to make mushrooms not hurt my stomach?
Rolaids or Tums works for me.
Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:07 PM
Everytime I eat some mushrooms, I get stomach pains followed by alot of gas. Does this happen to everyone?
not every one, not every time
still very common though.