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#1 abaca


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Posted 19 May 2011 - 09:23 AM

There have been a few threads about mead recently and I wanted to add a word of caution. Honey demand outweighs its supply. There are lots of 'Honey Sauce' showing up at retailers. The main ingredient in this honey sauce is high fructose corn syrup. So please check your labels when buying honey and make sure the only ingredient is honey.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 10:00 AM

Unfortunately that's not good enough since there have been numerous recent cases of smuggling low-grade honey or selling adulterated honey marked as pure.

Get it from a local producer if possible and be ready to pay a lot if you want to be 100% sure you're getting actual honey.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 12:05 PM

expensive as hell right now

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 11:39 PM

expensive as hell right now

I don't want to go into details, as I'm hoping to expand into a legit commercial operation and don't want to give away my 'secrets' (hint, its called math:eusa_shhh). However I can safely say that making 5 gallon batches of the best mead I've ever tasted among 6 or 7 meaderies and homebrewers, from ingredients bought at retail cost, small scale, from a co-op/grocery store:

My base cost is maybe a dollar or two more per 6 pack of 12oz bottles than it would be if I bought the best local microbrewery beer at same amount, however my mead has at least 3x the alcohol and an infinity x the quality/aroma/flavor.

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Edited by Beast, 20 May 2011 - 12:44 AM.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 12:00 AM

Good to know, I guess that's why I have always bought honey locally...
Mead sounds awesome, I have had some from friends but haven't made any myself yet :eusa_thin

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 11:42 PM

mead is great :)

Ive found this interesting too!

I think I paid 2.60 A pound for Northwest Clover Honey, But that was from the brewstore, I will have to check at the farmers markets/coops and see how much local stuff is.
What sorta prices do you guys pay?

Edited by datsun, 20 May 2011 - 11:55 PM.

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 11:59 PM

Just did some searches about this and I was suprised to find this thread already in google, as the top search for "honey demand outweighs supply"

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 08:35 AM

i keep my own hive :thumbup:

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 10:25 AM

Guys let's keep the price discussion to a minimum.......

....totally kidding lol
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Posted 21 May 2011 - 12:06 PM

i keep my own hive :thumbup:

I so want to do that.

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Posted 21 May 2011 - 12:13 PM

I so want to do that.

the one i have now was caught from the wild

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Posted 22 May 2011 - 03:28 PM

Awesome Anuggs! Yea I just saw a flyer for the list of beekeepers who will remove swarms of honeybees for free. Like a hotline :)

Also just checked at my local co-op and Local Blackberry honey 3.49 $ a Pound.

I also bought some Blackstrap Molasses for .99$ a Pound.

Hows that compare for honey that you guys get?

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:42 AM

I am glad I am not the only one that noticed this honey trend. I saw "Honey syrup" at the dollar store today and it made me cringe.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 10:45 AM

I live in Thailand and can go to local weekly markets and watch the honey i purchase being scraped from the comb right into the empty bottle of sangsom that they sell it in. Love me some Thailand.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 11:10 AM

My local beekeeper has high grade honey for 5 bucks a pound(a pound is one of those honey bear bottles). He had some earlier in the year that was supposedly from tree blossom nectar. I think he said it was primarily lindenwood, black locust, and catalpa. It was by far the best honey I've ever had, being much more mild and lighter than clover honey. The flavor was fantastic, I bet it would have made incredible mead!

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 05:55 PM

They first started adding corn syrup to keep the honey fluid. Now it's a decent substitute, most folks don't know the difference. Rice syrup is on the rise too so keep your eyes peeled for that. They'll say something like "No corn syrup" check the contents and it'll say 'rice syrup'. I just added 3 more hives and next year I'm planning on adding another 5.

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Posted 11 June 2011 - 10:16 PM

I cant wait till I find a place I can grow some crops/have some bees :)

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 12:01 AM

ya was feeling a bit home sick the other day and stopped at KFC for some fried chicken,
got my 3 peice meal with the biscut and asked for a pack of honey to make me a honey chicken biscuit
only to read the ingredients and realise that it was corn syrup :(
what a bunch of crap

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Posted 12 June 2011 - 07:30 PM

i keep my own hive :thumbup:

How did you get started if you don't mind me asking?

I've been starting a small personal orchard and I could use some honey bees.

Do you just build the boxes and hope for the best or can you buy a small colony?

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Posted 13 June 2011 - 03:30 AM

your local library probably has a couple books on beekeeping.

but before you go, look online and see if your local library has a searchable online database of all their books, dvd's, cd's etc. there's a friekin' gold mine of good stuff at every library and thanks to the internet it's all a couple mouse clicks away.

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