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#41 Guest_cap_*

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 02:22 AM

what does the liquid look like now?

#42 LotRev

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 02:45 AM

Ha! Yes the alcohol is definitely working! :headbang:

Hey Cap I am letting them soak overnight tonight, but tomorrow I will post the next picture of the liquid before I store it.

Goodnight all

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 10:16 PM

All right, everything is done now...

First, I did three extractions with the lighter fluid -
Then, I did three extractions with the Everclear

I came up with about 44mL of liquid...if you remember, I started with 4 doses of 8 seeds each, so thats right at 11 mL for each dose...and it is not hard to get 11 mL down. Here is a picture of the final liquid in a jar.

Dispose of left over seed remains unless you feel the need to dose them out and eat them as well.

I fell asleep earlier, but I still think I am going to try the trip out tonight...only thing is, I'm real low on mj...I love it on a trip, anyone think its a huge deal with this stuff to not have any, seeing as I have never tried it?

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#44 Pedestrian

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 04:03 AM

Cant wait to see how it goes for ya bro.... GL

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 04:36 AM

:eusa_whis....notta so goot..

linked him to Hippie's "No Nausea, Quick Onset GUARANTEED" tek..

of course its not as a refined product,
or as storable as a refined extract,
such as what was attempted to be accomplished here,
but it definitely should work and doesnt require any harsh solvents.

im not too surprised at yer results, Lotrev..
i have been readin this site's botanicals forum for several years
and from time to time someone tries something similiar to what you are doing.
now, i have no 1st hand experience, nor any real interest in LSA,
but from what i have seen here over the years,
nobody has nailed down a solid 'tek' to do it successfully, with zero stomach discomfort
as you well know--b/c you were attemptin to write the book! :D ...
..and more power to ya--at least somebody is puttin in some work :)

hope all goes well with the soft-drink..;)

#46 Hippie3

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 08:15 AM

lol
think you must be sleepy too, cap.
he hasn't got any 'results' yet,
so he hasn't failed.
plz tone down your remarks a bit,
i noticed here and in a few other threads
a bit of a 'know better' atmosphere,
while here at 'topia we like to be
more positive, accepting and encouraging
to others to 'do their own thing'
even when we think we know a better way.
call it the 'hippie' factor,
doing our own thing is our way.
of course the exception is false, misleading teachings
but i don't see that here...

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 08:17 AM

rev,
if i were you
i'd like some smoke for the crash at a minimum.
but no harm if you must go without,
maybe substitute a few beers for splashdown.

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 12:23 PM

Hippie, I really appreciate the backing...but Cap is right.

I was in the chat last night when I dosed it up.

Here are my results from last night:

At about 10:40 I started to drink what I measured out to be one dose of 8 seeds...I took it slow and finished by about 11.

I felt a trip coming on pretty fast...but never made it to the other side.
I was down again as soon as I was up.

I feel like the concentrated liquid was not near as concentrated as anticipated. I must have lost a lot more of the content than I had hoped for. I will try a double/triple dose tonight and have a final conclusion. From the looks of things, Hip's method (assuming no nausea for all) is probably the most reliable I've seen. The extraction I did worked just as it should have, I had zero stomach trouble...but I also had almost zero trip.

There was almost a pseudo trip feeling, you know, just a little off on everything, and a little hazy about the whole experience this morning -
When I dose tonight, I think it will kick in...but I've got to say that concentrating 32 seeds for one dose is not worth it. Another point is that I did not have the coffee grinder - some have expressed to me how they feel it will draw more out when more finely ground...I will not stop with this experiment until I have some solid results.

I feel like I did everything needed to a tee. It's possible that coffee filters aren't the best for the straining (catching too much?). I would like some input here, and I will keep on keeping on with this and update soon, thanks everyone-

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 01:43 PM

Also keep in mind a solution can only be so concentrated. Everclear will only hold so much lsa. You would be better off using a larger amount of liquid and also grinding the seeds like previously said. Hope you at least get one good trip out of it.

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 05:50 PM

before concluding the extraction was a failure
one must rule out the possibility of low potency in
the starting materials.
however you cannot rule that out
and so all you really know
is that one time those 8 seeds were not enough.
really when doing any extraction
one should include an extra 'fudge factor' to
cover the losses due to inefficiency
as well as to offset potency variations
that naturally occur in plant materials of all types.

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 05:51 PM

Hippie, im sorry :(
i neglected to mention he told me in the rabbit hole it was bunk :eusa_doh:

There was almost a pseudo trip feeling, you know, just a little off on everything, and a little hazy about the whole experience this morning -

hmm maybe the larger dose would work, then?
what you describe is how i get on <1g of dried cubensis

if it were me, and i only had a few seeds left,
i would either grow them out or pinch one or two from yer next 'batch'
and grow them, for backup :)

#52 LotRev

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 07:16 PM

before concluding the extraction was a failure
one must rule out the possibility of low potency in
the starting materials.
however you cannot rule that out
and so all you really know
is that one time those 8 seeds were not enough.
really when doing any extraction
one should include an extra 'fudge factor' to
cover the losses due to inefficiency
as well as to offset potency variations
that naturally occur in plant materials of all types.


I think you are right Hippie - As I said, I will keep trying at this and keep reporting back to you guys...if it takes me eating the seeds straight up, I will do it. I am pretty determined to work this out. If possible, I will try it out again this evening...and then onto your teabag method...after that, if I got nothing still, then I will eat them.

thanks for all the help guys

ps. Hip, in your tek, who are you quoting or is that the method you yourself used (in the first entry it says "quote:....") - just wondering if its a reliable source such as yourself, or if you were touching up someone elses report, thanks

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 07:24 PM

that was posted here long ago, back when we were still on discus,
the original posts now reside solely on the dvd and i don't have a copy available ATM
so i can't say who it was...i never tried it myself.




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