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#1 nomade

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:08 PM

paw: popcorn
preparation:
I'm getting a corn of excellent quality, large grains and no animals.
Boiled tap water and poured the corn, bring to a boil and shut off the fire.
Let rest 24 hours and boil again over 24 hours of rest and the latter boiled.
Drain the water is left and put in frost free refrigerator to dry the excess water, let por48 hours.
The corn was dry for cups of cottage cheese and sterilized in a Pressure Cooker for 90 minutes.

inoculation:
I prepared the multispore syringe and inoculated cups corn

casing:
Sought in horse manure military police here, dried in the sun for a month, was short and almost odorless. After nibbling coconut fiber, sphagnum, vermiculite and joined coconut powder, the quantity used without precise measurements. Finally joined the manure, I got a bag of about 40 kg of this material.
I put a quantity of this material in a bowl with holes in the bottom and added water to stay moist as well. The basin was up to the pan with water and took it to the oven. It's a bath without water contact, only the steam rises and heats the contents of the bowl. I followed the temperature with a digital thermometer and when it reached 70 ° C hung fire. The covered bowl rested for 24 hours then be heated again. This process took 3 days to get the material pasteurized.
All ready, prepared the casing mixing cups corn colonized and pasteurized material.
Distributed in cases and put in the Terrarium . Today I have completed 7 days and the fruit already growing.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:37 PM

What is "Florida White"? Is that a wild strain you gathered in FL?

Also, you prepared a bulk substrate. Casing is a non nutritious material which acts as a microclimate during the fruiting stage.

I just want to clarify for new members so they aren't confused during their research on bulk substrates and casings, etc.

I'm really interested about your strain though an it's origins. Thanks for sharing.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:01 PM

What is "Florida White"? Is that a wild strain you gathered in FL?

Also, you prepared a bulk substrate. Casing is a non nutritious material which acts as a microclimate during the fruiting stage.

I just want to clarify for new members so they aren't confused during their research on bulk substrates and casings, etc.

I'm really interested about your strain though an it's origins. Thanks for sharing.



I received a print (trade) with that label.

Doubt about the casing substrate I did not understand.
My language is Portuguese.
I used the google translator for your question and did not understand what you want to know.
You can put simple sentences and straightforward to translate?

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:10 PM

Understand, I didn't know English wasn't your first language.

Bulk substrate- horse manure (food source) you spawned to.

Casing - not food - a top layer that makes an environment suitable for fruiting by adding moisture and structure like nature.


I'll have to see if I can find other info on Florida White and it's origins.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:24 PM

Bulk substrate- horse manure (food source) you spawned to.

Casing - not food - a top layer that makes an environment suitable for fruiting by adding moisture and structure like nature.



I used: horse manure, sphagnum moss, coconut coir, coconut fiber, earthworm castings and vermiculite. Add water and pasteurize.

Inoculated grains of popcorn with a spore syringe.
Also inoculated rye grains with spore syringe.
I separated because the cooking time is different.

When they were colonized, I mixed the material pasteurized.
I put this black case and put in the terrarium.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:27 PM

I'll have to see if I can find other info on Florida White and it's origins.


http://www.fungiforu...hp?showtopic=78

F+ (a.k.a. Florida White)
F+ has never been very popular. Perhaps this is due to its name, which implies a mark of failure, according to American school standards. F+ supposedly originates from Florida. It was used by The_Chosen_One in a cross with PF Albino to create the elusive Falbino. There is little about the F+ which distinguishes it from an average cube.


http://everyoneweb.c...nooppuntID=K704

Cubensis F+


Origine : Clone d'un champignons sauvage de Floride, tous les F+ proviennent de ce clone, souche isolée par "Joshua".

La souche est très agressive et colonise la plupart des substrats, F+ a même fruité sur des de copeaux de bois. Le mycélium de F+ est essentiellement "linéaire tomentose à intermédiaire", même si il peut se développer très rhizomorphe sous certaines conditions. Habituellement il pins abondamment.

Spores: brun violacé à brun foncé, 11,5 - 17 x 8 - 11 μm, ellipsoïde


http://www.cogumelos...s/florida-white

features:

Psilocybe cubensis originating in Florida. The insulation was run and finished with a fruit cloned. All F + (another name given to the Strain) come from that clone. The strain was isolated by "Joshua."

The strain is very aggressive and colonizes many substrates exceptional time. There are cases of F + even fruitful in wood chips. Like most cubensis, F + grows in horse manure and cow. The F + mycelium is cottony to predominantly linear, although it can grow very rhizomorphic under certain conditions. Despite the growth mainly cottons, F + Pins usually generates abundant.

Fruits have the characteristic of this strain to grow particularly large, although they have also been described as of medium size and high density. The defining characteristics of this strain include: patches of mycelium in the Hat, and mycelial growth along the stem, and the hat like a navel.

Edited by nomade, 15 July 2011 - 05:36 PM.

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#7 Freaky

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:37 PM

That'd be why I didn't know Florida White, I know F+ by that name. :bow:

And The Chosen One's hybrid we call Falbino here. Maybe someone is renaming his Falbino Florida White.


And I know the process you used to grow, it was a definitions correction I was making for members.

Horse Manure is a bulk substrate, not casing. That was what I was explaining. Casing is vermiculite, coco-coir, or peat moss, or soil.

It doesn't matter, we're both lost in translation :)

Your mushrooms are really nice and healthy looking.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 08:58 PM

From my understanding florida white is the same as f+.....my f+ grow was solid white fruits and not very potent.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 09:28 PM

http://mycotopia.net...e-cubensis.html

Some history for those who are interested. TCO's Falbino is a PF Albino cross with F+. There was no "Florida White" strain at that time, at least that I am aware of. If you've grown any white F+ mushrooms anytime after 2006-2007, most likely they are TCO genetics of Falbino.

Hopefully TCO can help us out. He worked extremely hard on his cross, and I guess I'm a bit defensive that he is noted and his work is not re-named to something else, like "Florida White". There was an instance a few years back with a spore vendor who renamed the Falbino to something else.

I just think TCO should be given credit and his strain should remain named as it was originally intended.

I'll gladly eat crow if someone can prove otherwise, that Florida White is not Falbino.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 11:23 PM

http://mycotopia.net...e-cubensis.html

Some history for those who are interested. TCO's Falbino is a PF Albino cross with F+. There was no "Florida White" strain at that time, at least that I am aware of. If you've grown any white F+ mushrooms anytime after 2006-2007, most likely they are TCO genetics of Falbino.

Hopefully TCO can help us out. He worked extremely hard on his cross, and I guess I'm a bit defensive that he is noted and his work is not re-named to something else, like "Florida White". There was an instance a few years back with a spore vendor who renamed the Falbino to something else.

I just think TCO should be given credit and his strain should remain named as it was originally intended.


I'll gladly eat crow if someone can prove otherwise, that Florida White is not Falbino.


Thank you lady! :love:

the good news if you have to eat crow, you won't eat it alone. i'll bring the wine.. or is it brandy with crow..:eusa_thin

i have seen florida white for a couple years now on russian, austrailian and some european sites. from what i gather it is joshua's F+ changed to a more regional, world friendly name. if one is born and raised in kazakhstan, then florida white is going to sound a lot more exotic than F+. ;)
Falbino breeding. besides availability and freshness at the time, i chose F+ spores for most of the reasons noted in nomade's post. the one note that seems to be missing is that F+ tends to be very light in color. these reasons made it the perfect candidate.
as to which one nomade has.. it could be the more rare non-albino producing version of falbino. the probability is high it did make it to germany via captain_future. from there who knows.
about the only way to know for sure is to check the stems. falbino tends to produce mostly solid stems, while F+ tends to produce more hollow stems.

absinthe! that's it!!! and the crow must be served in a baked chevre! :teeth:

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Posted 16 July 2011 - 10:34 AM

:bow:

That is very possible TCO, international spreading of the strains. Probably easier to sell Florida white rather than F+. I'm still doubtful though given B+ remains named as it's always been.

Nomade, do you pull more than just the first flush from your substrates?

Please update us on the future flushes because it will be interesting to see if any albinos fruit for you.


Absinthe will make eating crow tasty :teeth:

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Posted 19 July 2011 - 02:19 PM

2º flush:

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 08:30 PM

Another casing.
No albinos, even

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 11:22 PM

Still very beautiful cubensis. It has more of the F+ characteristics To my eye than Falbino.

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Great grow!!!

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Posted 24 July 2011 - 11:07 AM

In the other casing.
Finally albinos.

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Posted 24 July 2011 - 11:09 AM

This is more of a casing

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Posted 24 July 2011 - 08:38 PM

Some ready for printing.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 06:51 AM

Seems Falbino may have been renamed again possibly.

Nomade, those are beautiful photos and mushrooms.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 03:05 PM

a few minutes.

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Posted 12 August 2011 - 09:11 PM

ummm interesting to read all this..and the history of Falbino ,pretty cool.
now i gotta doo some tracking,
see i got my F+ from theycallmejake, so i need to find out now.wat these really are, they are more solid in the sterms than hollow. which is why i like the strain :) i'll get my Sherlock pipe out........




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