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#21 BuckarooBanzai

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 09:06 PM

Damn...this thread is less than 420 minutes old? How many of you have hit it more than three times already? I know I have...

Do we need a 12 step program here? Mycotopiates anonymous, anyone?

"Hi, I'm Buckaroo, and I'm addicted to Mycotopia..."

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Posted 19 April 2006 - 10:52 PM

you guys are great :)
Im hiking up tomarrow to the spot.
There were hundreds of these.
Thanks again..
Took down the pic..just c.y.a.
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Look foward to talking with ya all.
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Posted 20 April 2006 - 01:46 AM

Took down the pic..just c.y.a.


Pfft.... Why?

Just taking away from the knowledge base IMHO. :mad:

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 08:55 AM

Man we would love to see some out door pics of shrooms in their natural environment! I bet they would be the first of the year.

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 09:34 AM

you guys are great :)
Im hiking up tomarrow to the spot.
There were hundreds of these.
Thanks again..
Took down the pic..just c.y.a.
Peace
Look foward to talking with ya all.
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Don't be too worried about posting pics.....especially of mushrooms you find in the wild. I guess it is your decision in the end, but leaving the pics really help other people with the same questions. If you want, you can send me the pics and I'll post them for you.

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 02:06 PM

Man we would love to see some out door pics of shrooms in their natural environment! I bet they would be the first of the year.

ahaaa sht. ok.
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Its been 30 years since Ive experianced any shrooms. Not likely to do so now.
I do know that their magic can break the walls down between time and space.
Because ive flown in space and seen the curvature of the earth and every living thing on it. And would have kept going farther but someone stopped me, and sent me back to my body, which was under a large rock out in the middle of Jousha Tree national monument. I couldnt talk for 2 days. It was too say the least, a profound experiance.
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oh..What is the lifespan of an individual mushroom? and does the same area flower(for lack of a better word) many times or only once a season?
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Posted 20 April 2006 - 02:29 PM

Thanks for reposting the pic man.

What is the lifespan of an individual mushroom? and does the same area flower(for lack of a better word) many times or only once a season?
Thanks


Thats a tough question to answer as all mushrooms are different. Also, the actual mushroom fruit is just a very small part of a large mycelial network. The lifespan of the mycelia can be a few months to many years. The lifespan of the fruitbodies is much much shorter... maybe only lasting a day or two once matured for the smaller exotic species. I have seen larger fruiting strains (i.e. Psilocybe Cubeisis) last for almost a week if not in an area exposed to direct sunlight. Once the cap matures and it drops spores its pretty much downhill from there as the fruits job is done. Im sure there are other strains that last much longer like some pure woodlovers, but dont have much experience with those.

Chances are pretty good you'll find fruits in an area again and again.. So long as you are careful where and how you walk so you dont harm the patches.

Happy hunting.

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Posted 20 April 2006 - 02:35 PM

That is called a flush and yes that same cow pie, if conditions remain appropriate, will flush again.

and does the same area flower(for lack of a better word) many times or only once a season?



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Posted 22 April 2006 - 11:37 PM

Hello!

I think i have identified these shrooms.
Thanks to the Audubon guide.
They are not cubensis but psilocybe coprophila.
The do not bruise blue nor do they have a ring on the stalk.
Also the location is not correct for cubensis.
Thank you all for your help :)

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Posted 22 April 2006 - 11:55 PM

i'm sorry but they do not appear to be coprophila in any way shape or form,
other than cap color, and, even that don't seem 'right'
b/c coprophila have a removable skin on the cap, and appear much darker in all photos i have seen

also out of season for coprophila, which is rare, even in-season

they appear to be Stropharia....but im not going to argue..you arent collecting any culturable material anyway

either way it seems it is NOT coprophila.

any1 else agree?

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 12:18 AM

Im not here to argue friend. I am hear to try to id these.
What varity of Stropharia would you say it is? the ones i find in the audubon guide all have rings on the stalk?

what seems right about coprophila.
is..location. Staining, size, gill color and habitat.

what color does strophria stain?

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 12:55 AM

i meant Stropharia cubensis (P. Cubensis), but it could be something else..
here's a good ID site www.rogersmushrooms.com

about the 'ring' all that is is the remnance of the veil that tore away from the cap to reveal the gills

unless they are mature, you will not see a purple ring..

also, dont forget cubensis is cultivated everywhere!

its even possible someone spiked the cow's feed with spores :rasta:

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 12:59 AM

i can almost make out veil tearing/ring below the cap
on the largest shroom of the cluster of 3 toward the left hand side of the pie in the photo

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 01:04 AM

its even possible someone spiked the cow's feed with spores

lols
Not were i live cap. Thank you for the link and the help Cap. I do appreciate it!
I also realize now why it is so hard to determine a species from one encounter, in one stage of development.
Thank you for your pacientce

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Posted 23 April 2006 - 06:57 AM

Psilocybe coprophila is the only true Psilocybe species occurring in the Hawaiian
Islands. The species has miniscule amounts of psychoactive compounds and is
generally considered as not hallucinogenic and relatively harmless. The small, dark
reddish brown, viscid pileus is distinctive. It is found commonly in cow dung.

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Psilocybe coprophila
no xpert but the stems in your pic, gravity,
appear, from what little i can see,
to be much thicker.
yours look more like cubensis to my eye
but more pix are needed to confirm.

Psilocybe coprophila (Bulliard: Fries) Kummer
Der Führer in die Pilzkunde 71. 1871.
Common Name: none
Pileus
Cap 1.0-2.5 cm broad, at first hemispheric, sometimes with a low umbo at the disc, becoming convex, broadly so in age; margin incurved, in age decurved to occasionally plane, fringed with evanescent whitish scales when young; surface glabrous, subviscid, translucent-striate when young and fresh, hygrophanous; color reddish-brown to dingy yellowish-brown, fading in age; context thin, colored like the cap, unchanging when cut or bruised.
Lamellae
Gills adnate, subdistant, relatively broad, pale grey when young, becoming greyish-brown, finally purple-brown.
Stipe
Stipe 1.5 - 5.0 cm long, 1.0-3.0 mm thick, equal, dry, straight to sometimes curved at the base; surface often squamulose when young, becoming fibrillose, whitish to dingy yellow-brown, not bruising blue; partial veil absent or if present, evanescent leaving fine scales on the young pileus and/or in a superior ring zone.
Spores
Spores 11-14 x 7-9 µm, ellipsoid, smooth; spore print purple-brown.
Habitat
Scattered to clustered on horse and cow dung; fruiting after rains during the winter months.
Edibility
Unknown.
Comments
This small dung dweller is recognized by a sticky, reddish-brown to dull yellowish-brown cap which when young is edged with cottony white fibrils and is typically translucent-striate. Unlike most Psilocybe species, P. coprophila does not bruise or discolor blue, with the exception of a few reports of bluing mycelium. Psilocybe coprophila also differs from most members of the genus in not being hallucinogenic (according to Stamets, it contains neither psilocybin or psilocin). Psilocybe coprophila is most likely to be confused with Stropharia semiglobata, another dung dweller with a viscid cap, but the latter is more yellowish, lacks a translucent striate margin even when young, and has a slimy, not dry stipe. Other mushrooms found on dung include Panaeolus and Coprinus species. Species of Panaeolus can be separated by dry, not viscid caps and distinctive mottled gills, while Coprinus species typically dissolve into an inky liquid in age.

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Posted 24 April 2006 - 04:34 PM

Field TRIP :)

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FieldTrippin!
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and i stii feel that this is coprophila:nana:


look in your audubon guide illistrations pg 82. then compare to cubs pg 226

ill be sitting here waiting your answer
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Posted 24 April 2006 - 04:41 PM

the first pic was misleading.
it is apparently a close-up shot,
a fact you neglected to mention.
http://mycotopia.net...25&d=1145793227

nice trip art.
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http://mycotopia.net...89&d=1145915132

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Posted 24 April 2006 - 04:48 PM

the first pic is not the same species as the new pics, just look at the stems
not the same pile of shit either
so who knows

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Posted 24 April 2006 - 04:50 PM

Thank you for merging these threads Hippe :)
I going try to find and photo a Cube!:dance:

They are the same kind cap
on the same series of dung
they are all in the same 10 square feet..
the only thing that dosnt fit is season.
the previous pic was taken on week earlier.
I think perhaps some ppl are not accoustemed to seeing Wild as apposed cultured.
there is much more varation in an natural enviroment as apposed to indoor.

peace.

Edit..
lil hostile vibe :P..grab the pics if you want them.
plz delete this account Hippe.
Peace




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