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#41 SillyCone

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:15 PM

Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr0000000000000000n :amazed:


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Enormous NYCDs... Those buds are gonna grow like fists... GGGgggl.
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Center POV from dual HPS @ 4 weeks
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The A5 Haze @ 4 weeks
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The AK47 & Cheese UK @ 2 weeks
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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:42 PM

BHO is butane honey oil. A fast and cold butane gas (condenses to liquid) extraction, leaves behind super pure THC oil after you evap the butane back out.

Deff check it out!

O and you snuck those pics before my post.....looking excellent. Makes me want to step it up.

That haze looks like she stretched a ton

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 10:59 PM

Oh ok yes I know BHO then :p
I never tried it myself, but made oil from my beloved Amnesia by decantation with ether. Lots of work but damn was it strong !
My favorite activity was to roll joints with Amnesia weed + Amnesia ice-o pure melt clear dome, and surround it with a liiittle Amnesia oil, then light it up and let everyone take 1 or 2 tokes from it... Muhahahahahaha. I was completely immune to THC at the time, so I finished the joint with a big smile on my face, surrounded by sleepy zombies. Yeah, I know, I know.. ;)
All in all, I'm a weed smoker, I don't care much for oil, and it's a nightmare to condition, let alone sell, so I'm sticking to ice-o which is appreciated by a few of my clients (the ones that used to enjoy a little morrocan hasj from Holland - Hiya, Tbisla, etc.)
Goes without saying ice-o is vastly superior both in taste and potency to morrocan hash, especially as I keep my trims ordered by strains to my ice-o isn't mixed up. NYCD Ice-o smells like lemon/smoked ham and puts a smile on your face while Amnesia Ice-o smells like rose/sugar and puts you in a psychedelic/dreamy state for 15 minutes before kicking you in the 'nads... I'm not practicing the same prices, but just FYI, ice-o is sold in Amsterdam coffee shops for 25 to 60€/gram !!!


The A5 Haze stretched as expected for a 17 weeker... What might have confused you is the Khmer Gold at its feet... And that one, yeah, you can say she stretched a ton and then some... I should deff have ScrOGed it like I did before, she loved it, and now I didn't and she's all over the place. As I'm not even sure my caretakers will like it, I prefered to remove her from the dual HPS circle to leave more room for the huge Sweet Skunk that is going to produce like crazy.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 09:44 AM

Goes without saying ice-o is vastly superior both in taste and potency to morrocan hash



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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:01 PM

Of course BREEDERS...

Growers in the Rif don't know how to grow properly, and most dry their weed under the sun... THC is degraded by heat and oxygen... QED.

And anyways, I've smoked morrocan hasj for 20 years, and I never tasted one that was even close to my own ice-o. And all my friend agree 100% with me (and I've got morrocan friends, we have lots of morrocan people in Belgium since 1956)...
Even the coffee shop owner of south Holland, who was morrocan, and used to go to the bled to choose the fields he wanted transformed in hasj for him, agreed that ice-o-lator hash is much stronger than morrocan hash. It's a no brainer, ask ANY dutch grower. I'm positively sure that the weed you were growing under HPS were far superior to the kief you get in Morrocos, and if the weed is better, the ice-o is much stronger...

If it wasn't for nationalism, you'd never have commented with incredulity. Time to let go of the old concepts like nationality and religion and free your mind from mental slavery, my friend...

And while I agree your mycology skills are simply amazing and unbelievable, don't come and tackle me on my own field : when I started growing cannabis, you were not even 10 years old...

Edited by SillyCone, 29 November 2011 - 02:28 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:57 PM

: when I started growing cannabis, you were not even 10 years old....



older , don't mean better....... maybe for wine :hippie:

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 06:32 PM

this IS going to be one epic harvest. particularly interested in how the nycd is going to turn out. :rasta:

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 07:14 PM

Thanks Theodore !

Today I went to my lgs and got a liter of ATA-XL, that thing is running out pretty quickly in a 300L reservoir... @ 300ml of XL per reservoir, good for 1 to 2 weeks... I use more of this even than NPK, now that blooming has started for good... It's mostly ATA-XL, Enzymes, PK13/14 and ph down.
I also got a fan for the single vertical HPS, and a bunch of Air Pots (6L and 10L).
I'm facing a dilema : Smart Pots seems to be even more efficient than Air Pots, so that means the plants seem to grow bigger in Smart Pots, but also that they drink and evaporate water much quickly, needed much more frequent waterings ; on top of that, the surface is bigger, so less of the volume of the pot is covered by a single dripper => they need 2 drippers.
I'll probably repot the NYCD in the 10L Air Pots. They probably wont colonize the rest of the coco, but it will serve as a water reservoir so that the plants don't drink all their water in 6 hours leaving the pot bone dry...

Today, I sprayed all my buds with a foliar formula whose goal is to boost the size and quantity of calyxes and trichomes. Nothing too fancy, a very little NPK, and traces of iron and other stuff all in minute quantities. The formula was designed more as an elicitor than as nutrients, by 2 ex-cannabis forum admins in the french/belgian community, here's the product's page : http://www.gp-biotec...ancer-p-70.html

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 08:59 PM

I am not using coir, but the smart pots are awesome for sure! I noticed a nearly immediate difference after transplanting from a traditional round black plastic.

Transitioning from air pots may not be as noticeable. Using some 3gal ones right now, along side my hydro rig, and for 5 bucks I won't ever buy a different kind of pot.

Interesting link too :thumbup:

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 06:31 PM

I finished my hatch yesterday.
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I added the missing fan under the single HPS. The new Honeywell model seems less powerfull than the last generation. They also claim a 25% noise reduction... Who are they fooling ? Less noise in a fan means less air movement, and that's not the quality I liked the Honeywell for... It's enough for one bulb though, especially as it's sitting next to the intraction (RVK @ 425cmh)

On the right part of the picture, you can see clockwise, starting behind the bulb : Casey Jones (stretchy as a SourD), Cheeseberry Haze (no haze influence on that short bitch though), AK47 and Cheese UK...
Those 4 are @ 18 days, and have all started the fructification... They didn't stretch much except for the Casey Jones, often a sign with hybrids that they had sufficient lighting throughout veg and pre-flowering stage.
Funny how the sour d pheno seems to always go hand in hand with heavy stretching and golf club like buds...

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Here you can see the Khmer in front of the A5 Haze, on ground level as she was too tall for the tables already... She's a real asian lady for sure, the stretch is phenomenal :D
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The Panama is putting on weight...
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As are the NYCDs...
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The veg room.
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This is the coir I'm using. See how finely ground it is. Pure happyness !
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One of my favorite aspect of working with coco is that it's totally clean. No dirty residue on your hand even after a heavy repotting session, just dry them and shake the coir particules away !
So it's the best organic substrate, as well as the best hydroponic one, compared to rockwool (nocive when dry) or clay pebbles (need to be balanced and cleaned after each session).

When using coco hydroponically, various grades can be used, depending on your watering system.

If you water by hand, or through drips in drain-to-waste (DTW), the fine grade I'm using is just perfect as it holds a lot of water and diffuses it throughout in time, while always retaining enough oxygen for the roots even when soaked up.

If you use slabs, and/or a recirculating system (like with clay pebbles), it's best to use the much coarser grade that lets much more water through. CoGR from CANNA are slabs made of 3 layers of different grades of coir, for the best of both worlds (so they might say.)

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:25 PM

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A few details...

A5 Haze (Maastricht bagseed cut)
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Khmer Gold (Gypsy's private collection)
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Hrmmmm AK47 ? Cheese ?
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NYCD
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Panama (CannaBioGen)
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 09:50 AM

Damn tarsonemes... They're attacking in veg on my most precious genetics (JH Candy, Jack'o'Nesia, Jack F1, Lavender, and Sour Diebble = RD Sour Diesel "riri cut" x BOG Sour Bubble). Next to those are 4 Cheese UK in full health... I really don't understand how those pests work, damnit !!!

In bloom, I had to remove the last Jack Herer, cut the Kali Mist in half (the top bud had completely necrosed pistils, then the new growth starts diformed... OUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN :cry:), but the worst of it all : the Khmer Gold probably won't make it. I cut half of her buds 2 days ago, and now the rest is getting completely eaten away. It's too late in bloom for me to spray dangerous chemicals, and it's not on my menu anyways... My only hope is that those FUCKERS will leave my NYCD and Sweet Skunk alone, else I'll be in deep deep shit...

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 11:22 AM

Sorry to hear about the bad luck friend. What all have you tried to repel them?

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 04:46 PM

Hey sorry I missed that...

I'm currently in the process of harvesting the first batch of plants, the one most touched by tarsonemes, so I'm now better equipped to give a few explanations about how it all went...

So in the first batch of plants, consisting of JH x3, NYCD x2, Panama, A5Haze, Sweet Skunk x2, C99 x3, Khmer Gold, the tarsonemes appeared only right at the appearance of the first flowers. I wondered why with my cannabis collective, and someone pointed out the tarsos only go in sexual overdrive at the autumn, when the light starts getting lower in the sky and the days start getting shorter... Thus in the flowering room in my indoor environment !
So I lost irremediably all the JH, the Khmer, and 2 C99s.

Here's a pic of an infected Jack Herer :
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Then the same someone found a recipe against the tarsos : water, olive oil, lemon juice, oignon and garlic. And it works !
The thing with tarsos is : as soon as you spotted them, you have to spray them with the mix above. But not in bloom, in veg ! In case of a late infection after the first few weeks of flowering, there's not much you can do except dispose of the infected plant...

Something else I'm wondering, is if spider mites help control tarsonemes populations, and it's getting rid of the spider mites that allowed the tarsos to overwhelm the plant... The plants more touched by the spider mites seemed untouched by the micro bastards...

Edited by SillyCone, 07 January 2012 - 04:55 PM.


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Posted 07 January 2012 - 04:59 PM

A few pics of the NYCDs that I just manucured and are drying right now (1400g of wet manucured buds... We'll see how much it's reduced when dry in 4 or 5 days...)

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The yield won't be as bad as I pictured it'd be, but this clearly isn't what I'm used to with my NYCD cut... The top buds should be at least 2 or 3 times heavier with lots of foxtails. It hasn't explosed nor stretched as it uses to. Clearly the vertical lighting wasn't enough to counter the tarsonemes effects... And Smart Pots were so efficient they went dry all the time, but as they were mixed with Air Pots in the same hydro loop, I couldn't water ALL of them just for 2 plants in Smart Pots... So I'll try not to mix them anymore, or even limit their use for "niche applications" : Smart Pots for mother plants and Air Pots for production plants...
And for the next session (in two weeks time, I'll have harvested most of the reminding plants - Panama, Casey Jones, Sweet Skunks, Cheese UK, AK47 and Cheeseberry), I'll switch back to my faithful Adjust-A-Wings in horizontal. Vertical is great when you have lots of horizontal space :D
Which is not my case, so I'm still more efficient with classic reflectors...

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:09 PM

Just a few pics from 5 minutes ago. Sorry for the bad lighting, couldn't wait 6AM for the lamps to go off ;)

First the veg room, full of what I thought were Amnesia "Soma cut", but are in fact Cheese :laser:

$%^^&%#^#^&%@%^@^&*prfztgrmblgwarks. Not AGAIN.
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9 Mango Haze x 4 clones for my current selection... And the mothers are all beautiful ! :love:
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The flowering room from outside :
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And inside :
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Shantibaba's Mango Haze selection : 9 females out of 16 sprouted seeds (2 didn't open).
Damn they're beautiful.
I can't stop growing those damn hazes, when they shoot up like that it fills me with emotion...
I still got the pack of NL#5xHaze I bought with those Mangos, I really should pop them to see how that mystical legend lives on...
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Sensi's Jack Herer "Candy cut" :
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Sensi's Jack Herer F2 "Formula1 cut" that I'll name the "Purple Jack" from now on :
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:57 PM

You grow some really dank/frosty buds!
Props for the mad growing skills.

I'm loving the bud porn. :flash:

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:04 PM

Wow - gorgeous plants, man. That Jack actually made my mouth water...

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:04 PM

Thanks guyz !

@morfin-56 : well, growing is my "calling", if you wish... When I used to fool around trying new jobs (guitar luthier, RC helicopter pilot, racing simulation motion cockpit builder, ... :p), Maman used to tell me : "concentrate on what you do best : computing or growing weed"... Since computing is too mind intensive, not enough shamanic for the new me, I made my choice. Actually, it's been my dream since the first time I visited the Sensi Seeds Bank shop in Amsterdam in 1993 and was drooling in front of the HPS - completely out of financial reach at the time, and I've been sucked into corporate enslavement a few years after that.

@BB : Hehe I knew I'd find you around here ;)
Good to see you again :love: (been following your adventures with laser, I had a hard time resisting my GAS but I stood strong because I want my ROOR bong more ;))
Man, you should smell that Jack... Before 10 weeks, she smells like pure candy... After that, the acidity of THC gets stronger, and the morning afters are getting painful for the eyes and brain...

Well, that's what happens when everything's back to the usual : Adjust-A-Wings horizontally, Jack's and Hazes, square 7L pots, hand watering :
- Vertical lighting was impractical, you really need much more area to go around the plants to tend them ;
- When I grow strains that I like to smoke for myself (not the case of the Cheese, for example), I take much better care of them and it shows ;
- Air Pots were a disaster with coir, I'll never use them again with that substrate ; I understand how they can be perfect for soil though ;
Smart Pots were much more practical and much more efficient than the Air Pots (I wouldn't have thought beforehand), but still drying too fast with an airy medium like coir ; grew some monster NYCD's in them though, with a huuuuge stem like 5cm diameter ;
- Automatic watering makes me lazy... Hand watering allows me to give exactly the quantity of water each plant needs, with the additional benefit of feeling much more precisely where the plant stands, health wise, and in her flowering process. Helps me understand deeply how the plant works. If she's drinking much less, or more, are great pointers to what she's doing internally, depending on her root system and "stuff"... I try not to put the mind into it and feel it in the now, so it's almost impossible to convey with words... I'm sure you guys know the feeling.

I still got tarsonemes and spider mites, though... :cry:
I try to make my peace with them bugs, as it's close to impossible to get rid of them in a perpetual harvest system based on clones and mother plants...
I use neem oil now, following Anne's advice, but too much of it and the leaves end up dying and the plant takes longer to recuperate. Too little of it is the death of my yields, so it's a fair trade off.
Would be really nice not to fear the resurgent nature of bugs like tarsonemes, though... Spiders I can live with.

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Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:59 PM

I've had great results killing off the mites and tiny flying fruit fly bastards with Neem oil products. It doesn't matter how clean you work or how good the air movement is or how damned careful you are. Eventually spider mites or fruit flys just seem DESTINED to attack indoor gardens.

I like the Neem because it isn't poisonous to me, it is hard to overdose and it works as both foliar spray and soil drench. And it's totally organic...

Again I'll whore for General Hydroponics (I should really be getting checks or something from them): AzaMax kicks ass. But truthfully, I used Einstein Oil for a long time before GH came out with AzaMax. I quit using Einstein because AzaMax is more concentrated, cheaper and already has the wetting/sticking agent added.

But yer right. They are almost unavoidable on most grows and they are basically a given with a continuous system. When you never have two days to shut everything down and set off two Doktor Dooms the best defence is prevention. I add Neem to every watering and I do foliar misting if the little bastards get intense.




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