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#141 Hippie3

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 11:19 AM

:lol:
take a break...

still,
8.9 averages to ~2.25 between four, pretty close to average for uncased.

didn't count the 2 that didn't flush because of drying out.

still pretty easy to see the benefit from using the DE casing, imo.

#142 OZ

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 06:59 PM

not to mention this is the 2nd flush as opposed to the 1st. i dont think this experiment was nearly enough to draw ANY conclusion

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 07:01 PM

short of conclusive proof?
yes.
evidence ?
also yes.
it's all about
building a case, friend.
that's all one can really do
absent a laboratory/controlled experiments.

#144 mushit

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 07:26 PM

(Edited as it no longer has relevence)

#145 Hippie3

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 07:31 PM

agreed.
your title remains, i only added to it.
the title was edited to make this thread
easy to find with our search engine
and to tie it together with related material
via our 'similar threads' display.

i can copy the thread and split off a version
that would exclude shimmy's off-shoot
and just focus on your posts
but i don't think i'm going to
kill the master thread,
sorry but the info itself has to take
precedence over your 'territorial' rights
once it's been posted this long
and developed this far.

#146 Hippie3

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 07:47 PM

you now
have your thread back.
:bow:

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#147 golly

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 09:51 PM

hey mushit ,,were u using white or brown rice in the tec and is there any noticable difference between the two ....great idea.. + glad u got yer thread back....

#148 mushit

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 11:30 AM

I used brown rice, as with all the grows that I have done with rice. I have never used white rice so I can't comment on that one. I will have to try it and see if there is a difference.

Thanks Golly. :)

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 04:42 AM

I've seen white rice used in PF tek twice, made shrooms'n'all only thing is:cry: they went green instead of blue and had extremely low potency.
White rice is made by taking brown rice and removing the outer layer which has all the nutes in it, so it figures .

EDIT:Oops I forgot that in America they have to add nutrients back by law - so um maybe it might work with american white rice .

Oh yeah nice log man.

#150 Hippie3

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 06:45 AM

i've used plenty of white rice [american] and it's just fine to use.

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 09:13 AM

ive used white rice instead of brown rice in the pf tek and the shrooms were fine

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 05:59 AM

I wonder why this one and some others didnt work ??
http://www.shroomery...e//fpart/1/vc/1

Weird .

#153 Hippie3

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 07:10 AM

the grow
did indeed work,
as his pictures plainly show.

he just dosed too low.

one should not draw conclusions on skimpy evidence,
far too many people
see just one case
and leap to making general assumptions
far beyond what the evidence
actually supports.

this is particularly true
with issues of potency
since it is highly variable
and entirely a subjective assessment.

if we listened to every report of low potency
we'd be forced to conclude
that just about every strain is bunk
and every substrate yields bunk.

there is a kernel of truth hidden in that lie,
to wit- any strain and any substrate can
at any time
produce shrooms with potency
ranging from zero to max.

then factors like tolerance and drying/storage methods come into play...
not a simple, cut-and-dried process at all.

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 09:05 AM

Well put, 3. We must remember that, although some long for it, these creatures can never be mechanized. Therefore, trying to predict what the outcome in potency will be based on strain and substrate makeup is a near impossible thing to do. Educated guesses are one thing and predictions another.

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 03:30 PM

i think the best way to combat low potency is too mix all your shrooms of a particular batch together... then pulverize and mix into something like choc. or applesauce etc., or make a tea out of that. then you'll get one average potency. it could also be the person eating them. ;)

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#156 mushit

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 10:31 AM

Very true fahtster. I found even with the same batch, same dose, the trip was different. I don't think I have had the same trip from one strain yet. I think this is due to state of mind as well as the difference in potency. This also makes it difficult to predict the potency.

#157 Sneef

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Posted 19 May 2006 - 11:35 AM

Or just grow Pan Cyans....:eusa_danc




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