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#1 igetit

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 01:06 AM

I was wondering what everyone's experience is with constant light. I would love not having to put my light on a timer and leave it pointed away from the setup, but what do you guys think about a bunch of cakes getting 24 hour indirect ambient light? I have heard that 6-8 hours does it, but would this much have any negative effect? Thanks for any input

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 01:29 AM

as far as i know the light does not effect anything except to tell the shrooms which way to grow
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#3 red_lenses

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 05:55 AM

I have never had a problem with 24hrs of light.
Just be careful of the heat.

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 06:45 AM

When my freind did cakes long time ago he had a big plastic container in the cupboard with wet rockwool lining the bottom, a aquarium pump to an airstone bubbling in the rockwool under a 40w bulb sealed in a jar resting on a pipe. The airstone took care of fresh air and humidity and the light was on 24/7 for heat. Never had any probs with the light on... worked like a charm

http://www.overgrow....IMAG0041.JPG&s=

Check it out.. From experience he reckons the cool compact flouro would be a better choice though

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 08:01 AM

Didn't the FBI grow say that more light
made darker caps along with more
potent shrooms?

Might be wrong, but thought I saw that.

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 01:05 PM

Didn't the FBI grow say that more light
made darker caps along with more
potent shrooms?
Might be wrong, but thought I saw that.

was the the FBI log from the pf investigation? Is that information available? I can't believe they posted their grow log, including factors to make the mushrooms more potent! :lol:

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 01:13 PM

That is funny. Is this true? The sad thing is that there's a good possibility that someone from the community may have guided them throughout the grow..hehehe

#8 igetit

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 04:12 PM

Awsome. Just what I was thinking also, especially because the light incubates my grow at perfect temperatures. As of right now I am designing a fully automated growspace in 2 square feet. Ill post some sketches as soon as I scan them, and pictures as soon as the setup is finished.

Also, any one else have any knowledge on the more light = more potentcy?

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 07:21 PM

was the the FBI log from the pf investigation? Is that information available? I can't believe they posted their grow log, including factors to make the mushrooms more potent! :lol:


They actually sent PF a copy of the report and he posted it on his old site. It may still be available on one of the mirror sites. Sorry don't have a link handy. I don't remember any reference to lighting and potency but it's been a long time since I read it. hehehe I still got a copy PF sent me on an old hard drive. Anyway, the FBI did order from PF and used his directions. It was kinda funny tho. They mis-identified the PFC as a Ps. Cyan.

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 09:47 PM

I am wondering how many hours of light will my cakes need during pinning and fruiting? whats the lowest amount of hours I could get away with, without having the cake fruit less then it would have with more light? whats the ideal number of hours of light? Would a cake given 4 hours of light a day fruit less then a cake that was under 10 hours?

Thanks!

#11 Hippie3

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 09:52 PM

one just needs a second or two if the light is bright
per day
to trigger pinning.
takes more if light is dim.
more light only helps them orient themselves better
so they grow straight up.
brightness of the light is more important than time,
i've noticed cakes by a window
tend to fruit more
on the side
by the window.

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 09:56 PM

I think i read somwhere that a study was done in which some mycelium was kept in total darkness for fruiting except for a photographic flash once daily.

As i recall, that half second of daily light was enough to initiate pinning

#13 tepin

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 10:03 PM

I have about 420 watts of flouro that I can use. how many hours you think I need?

how many hours you keep your under hippie? I really want to shoot for the best amount for them or as close as I can get to for the most fruits per cake.

thanks guys!

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 10:08 PM

Psilocybe cubensis is not photosynthetic, rather nonphotosynthetic, as well as phototropic.
in other words, they dont use the light for anything but a guide of where to grow towards
whereas green plants, for example, are photosynthetic, and turn the light energy into growth

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 10:09 PM

More light wont give you a better grow.

Light just tells the mycelium its on the outside

Just try to keep the amount of light even around the cakes, you dont need much at all but too much wont hurt

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 10:10 PM

Let the mighty Cap guide you :bow:

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 10:15 PM

one just needs a second or two if the light is bright
per day
to trigger pinning.
takes more if light is dim.
more light only helps them orient themselves better
so they grow straight up.
brightness of the light is more important than time,
i've noticed cakes by a window
tend to fruit more
on the side
by the window.


Exactly. The only reason I even use a light is to keep them going straight up. Otherwise they will lean towards the windows. PF family shrooms are highly phototropic and almost require a light directly above for several hours a day to overide the effect that the windows cause. Some strains aren't so touchy and require much less light. If all you have is natural light from a window just rotate the grow chamber (or the cakes or casings) 180 deg once a day. Once summer hits I usually shut my lights off and just use the window.

#18 tepin

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 10:28 PM

Thanks everyone for clearing this up for me!!

this is why I love mycotopia :)

if anyone wants to add any more please do!

thanks again!

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 10:38 PM

if anyone wants to add any more please do


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Some tips from BrettieJams (from the light archi\/es)

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