Invitro casing method idea...
Posted 02 February 2005 - 03:58 PM
These bowls, about 4L in capacity, would have a number of small nail holes in the bottom & sides to give gas exchange, as would the lid. The lid would stay on until the growing pins needed space, then I'd switch for saran-wrap or something that could stretch vertically a good 4".
I know the lack of ventilation encourages contams. The casing layer may be just enough to cover the popcorn. As it would contain little moisture, I'd consider putting together the popcorn alone in the bowl one day, letting it stitch together for 24-48hrs, dunk the mass overnight, then let drain a little, THEN case. Some of the popcorn may be used after a pre-birth flush.
I've got a stupid amount of colonized popcorn coming up, and a mad scientist itch! feels soooo good to scratch!
(Message edited by morthos on February 02, 2005)
Posted 03 February 2005 - 02:32 PM
Posted 03 February 2005 - 02:36 PM
Posted 03 February 2005 - 03:10 PM
That's why it's fruiting on the bottom. Don't use casing material on the bottom. Don't drill holes on the bottom. Mushrooms want to grow towards the fresh air. It completely defeats the purpose to put drain holes in a casing. That only covers sloppy technique in moisture control. A given substrate can only support so many mushrooms to begin with and popcorn is a piss poor perfomer at best. Don't put holes in the bottom and don't have it too wet. You can take a casing right out of the dunk water, drain for one minute and put into a pie tin without holes. Case the top only and cover with foil. After four days, remove the foil. Apply wax paper to the top. Lift the wax paper to mist if necessary. Usually it isn't. The mushrooms will lift the wax paper out of the way as they grow. Replace the wax paper with a fresh sheet every two days.
Posted 03 February 2005 - 03:35 PM
Posted 03 February 2005 - 03:41 PM
Posted 03 February 2005 - 07:01 PM
I'll look for coir next time I'm in a larger center, and maybe start trying wild bird seed soon.
Just to be clear Rodger, I do want pinning on the bottom & all over the popcorn mass. With that purpose, a thin layer of dry verm would be good, yes?
I keep on thinking I need small nail holes from doing Chronic tek. I understand what you're saying about holes for the purpose of drainage; what I'm concerned about is gas exchange. Should I not have a few in the bottom for this? I'm thinking to try this in a Neglect tek fashion, only opening the unit at harvest-bleach dip-dunk time.
What I'm thinking of is a popcorn mass from 4-6 500ml jars. I would put this in the bowl, let stitch for a day or two, dunk, drain, then envelop with a thin layer of dry verm, add lid with 4~6 small nail holes for gas exchange, and turn bowl upside down so CO2 falls down & out. I would only open at harvest time. Between flushes I would bleach dip to battle contams.
As a variation could I mix the colonized popcorn with moist verm(until I get coir) for extra water supply?
Could this work as a neglect tek? Would I need 4-6 small nail holes in bottom for gas exchange given no fanning will happen?
Posted 07 February 2005 - 10:47 AM
I do this with whole rice, works great, like RR said its like lazy mans compost
Posted 07 February 2005 - 10:59 AM
damp would do better
Posted 07 February 2005 - 04:17 PM
Do you have a link to a tek for that?
Posted 07 February 2005 - 05:08 PM
Mycotopia Web Archive: "rez-effect" [grain + coir/verm] cakes
just using coir instead of the verm