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#21 SharkieJones

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 01:53 PM

I wanted to try something different I made a cake with composted manure, BRf, and verm. Trying to get meatier mushrooms off of cakes... so far so good. I'm getting massive knots in the jar and the damn thing isn't colonized 100% yet.
Credit to Waylitjim for the manure cake recipe. I used the same recipe that Waylit posted for his Pan Cyan Tek.

This recipe was intended for P. cyanescens, but can also be used for cubensis.

1-Measure and prepare your substrate
2-Load mixture into the jars and pressure cook
3-Innoculate with spores, liquid culture, agar wedge or slurry
4-Apply casing layer
5-Fruit your jars


I've been using plastic PP5 containers containers which work great. I can fit 9 into the PC at once, and this recipe will make 9 containers. Each lid has a 1/2 hole drilled in the top with a tyvek patch. I use a hot glue gun to apply the filter patch. Here's a pic of the lid and container.



1- Measure and prepare your substrateShred 10 cups of horse manure very finely and soak in water overnite. I like to add a half cup of bleach and hydrated lime to the water. The next day pour the manure thru a collander and squeeze it out by hand. Set the strained manure aside, and remember it will not be pasteurized.
Add 10 cups of vermiculite to a large bowl or tub, and stir in 2 cups or BRF. Moisten the verm and BRF to field capacity using regular or distilled water.
Combine the BRF/Verm with the horse manure in the same tub and mix it up really well, you want to evenly distribute the brf and the manure. 2- Load mix into the jars or containers and pressure cook
Gently pack down the substrate so there's no big air spaces. As usual, add a nice layer of dry vermiculite on top. Seal the lids onto the containers and cover with aluminum foil. Sterilize in the PC for 1 hour.

3- Innoculate with spores, liquid culture, agar wedge or slurry
If you only have spores, you can also use this substrate recipe. Starting with spores will add about 1 week to the colonization time. My method goes as follows, shoot 6 ccs of sterile water onto a colonized agar plate. Using the needle tip, mix up the mycelium and water and draw the slurry back into the syringe. No need to dig into the agar layer, just wipe the myc. off the surface of the agar. Inoculate the containers with 6 cc of mycelium water. They'll be colonized within 15 days and ready to fruit.

4-Apply casing layer
I like to use 50/50 cactus mix and vermiculite. Before mixing in the vermiculite, add hydrated lime and gypsum to the cactus mix, this will help pH balance the casing layer. This casing mix works great for Pans, it has good aeration and is fairly contam resistant. The cactus mix contains forest humus, sphaghnum peat moss, perlite, pumice, earthworm castings, sand, and lime. I pasteurize the casing mix for 1 hour. After it cools, apply the casing layer 1/4 - 1/2 inch deep. Covering the containers with foil for a few days after casing is recommended, this gives the the mycelium a chance to recover. Also, poke a few holes in the foil to provide some air exchange.

5- Fruit your jars
Finally! The easy part. Remove the foil from the jars and place them into the fruiting chamber. If need be, mist the casing layer to keep it moist. Pans will normally show pins in 7-10 days after casing. Stop misting once you see pin formation. Just remember to keep the temps warm, the air fresh, and the humidity high. That's it for Waylit's Pan cyan Tek.

Good Luck ;)
~Waylitjim




Here's a few pics, looks like this cake is going to do well.:amazed:

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#22 apokalypse

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 02:57 PM

When I had my brf jars growing, by the time the tex were all 100% colonized, there were little mushrooms growing along the side of the jar hehe. I look forward to seeing your results Sharkie!

#23 SharkieJones

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 05:15 PM

Coming along! Here's some more pics.

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Posted 21 May 2006 - 05:23 PM

lookin great :) anxious to see how this works out for ya
them pins look swell

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 09:02 AM

Dayum, sharkie! Those are going to be fat!:amazed:

#26 Hippie3

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 09:03 AM

:cool:

#27 SharkieJones

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 09:14 AM

Thank you, will keep you posted.

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Posted 23 May 2006 - 04:31 PM

More pics, folks.

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#29 Elf Salvation

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 01:16 AM

Cool Lazlo. Done the same with whole poo in half pints with pan cyan. Im happy ;) and so are the pans.


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#30 Lazlo

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Posted 29 May 2006 - 02:20 PM

Sounds good Elf.

Update. I hope this thing finishes and fruits like i'm hoping. This cake contains twice the amount of water of the maximum fruting formula PF cake. :Dhttp://mycotopia.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26669&stc=1&d=1148930393

Day 12 and looking good I guess.

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#31 SharkieJones

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Posted 07 June 2006 - 07:18 PM

Tex fruiting on a 1/2 manure 1/2 brf cake. Looking good so far how do you think? I just love Tex if only someone could cross breed Tex with SA I'd be really happy. How 'bout it Workman?

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#32 tepin

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Posted 07 June 2006 - 09:03 PM

good work sharkie!

got a few tex cakes about a week or less from birthing.

keep up the pics :)

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Posted 11 June 2006 - 11:12 AM

:eusa_whishttp://mycotopia.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27472&stc=1&d=1150041894http://mycotopia.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27473&stc=1&d=1150041894

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#34 guitarman

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 06:03 PM

any update on how this turned out after a month?

#35 fahtster

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 09:03 PM

missed this one. very nice sharkie... yeah, the tex just can't wait to 'pop'. :)

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#36 SharkieJones

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 09:16 PM

Thanks guys

#37 golly

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Posted 21 June 2006 - 10:53 PM

So what did ya think Sharkie -about the addition of poo ,,,better worse..?
looked good to me ....

#38 SharkieJones

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 02:57 PM

It was about the same. I didn't notice any differences.

#39 Hippie3

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 03:58 PM

merged threads

#40 SharkieJones

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 06:07 PM

Thanks Hip.




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