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[prismaticEffects]

Hip- you can always trust kitchen-aid to be the best of the best.
I didn't even realize they had grinders,
otherwise I woulda snagged one...
I got a black&decker from walmart that I havent tested yet w/ rice
(it grinds my herbs up nicely though)

[synth]

lol DDD,
i have that same grinder.
the pin that secures the grinding plate to the
spiral shaft always gets bent though and it gets loose,
allowing the grinding plate to turn independantly from the
spiral shaft [which the crank is directly attached to].
this is clearly a big no-no. so, i took the pin off and just
welded the grinding plate to the shaft. no more problems.

[synth]

i like it because it will grind up mhrb and caapi
[after you break it into chips with a hammer] and
you don't have to worry about it getting fucked up.

yeah hip.. it is tiring. suck it up, pussy =]

[Hippie3]

lol
screw that,
this is 2006, man.
we have electricity here now.
:lol:

[synth]

lol hip


aw hell, after posting that i went downstairs and hit it with
a hammer to try and get some scaling off of it and the damn
grinding plate snapped clear in half. son of a bitch.

i took it out back and welded it back together though.. looks
ok =]

[Hippie3]

i'll sell you mine,
only been used once
as i'm a fast learner.
;)

[synth]

=p

having a welding setup is nifty as hell

if i couldn't braze/weld i'd take you up
on that offer hehe

but nah.. you're right, it is annoying to
crank. if this thing breaks again and it somehow
can't be fixed, i'll look into that kitchenaid model
you mentioned.

[Hippie3]

check it,
it's the best. i've used it on rice, caapi, nuts,
chews right thru it all
and to be honest
even if it crapped out today
it'd still be the best deal i ever got.
i'd go right out
and buy another just like it.

[Eldeeder]

I've noticed that a few people say you should grind your own brown rice into flour... has anyone ever done any extensive research? How much better is fresh, Really?

[Lazlo]

The main key with grinding your own is, it's far cheaper than buying brown rice flour from an organic health food store. FAR cheaper and there's no difference in the 2 as far as growth, potency, exc.

[Eldeeder]

I disagree, I found a small bag (1lb 8 oz) of brf for like 4 bucks.. If you dont have a coffee grinder, I think just buying it would be cheaper...

[doobydoobydoo]

LOL!!!
shit man
have you actually USED one ?
i have,
yeah, they work
but they suck.
too much work!!

Hells yeah I used it. I did 25lbs of rice very easily. :eusa_danc

It did give me a lil bit of a shoulder/arm workout cranking it around and around for about 2 hrs (with bowl breaks heh :rasta:). And, it makes a bit of a mess, but I put a garbage bag around the area and twas fine. MUCH faster/easier than a small 1/2 cup coffee grinder. imo anyways. :) heh Oh, also, tis rather loud. But I like manly noisey stuff, arg arg, like tim the tool man taylor. :) So not that bad. heh

[karmadiver]

I get Riceland Extra Long Grain - Natural Brown Rice 1 LB boxes for $0.63 a box. When doing alot of testing that is ALOT cheaper. Not to mention fresh ground and not in a total powder, I use like 1/2 ground (still kinda chunky, not total flour) for my best results. I would also like to state my tests have shown faster colonization of pf style jars using my ground flour over store bought preground.

Just my 2 cents.

[doobydoobydoo]

I have found fresh ground can be better, IF, the initial rice you are grinding is of good quality. Many of the pre-ground organic flours are of high quality and have many nutrients.

I had TERRIBLE results with supermarket Stop-n-Shop brand long grain brown rice while America's Choice brand of long grain brown rice would give me great results! I've recently tried some stuff from bulkfoods dot com and found it to be even better (though the cost is a lil bit more). Seems to provide better nutrients to the mycelium. Fruits have been a lil more denser, and also, caps are a more darker brown color, not as light.

Now, if you happen to get a big bag like this to last you a long ass while like I did, you are gonna need a grinder better than a black and decker coffee grinder. :)

I use a Universal 500 grain mill. There are other similar items as well. Basically, a grain mill. Cheap and works great for me. A lil exercise doing a lot, but not bad at all. Tore through 25lbs of rice mad quick and now I've got fresh ground flour ready for a long time. No more messing with 1/2 cups at a time in the coffee grinder. ;)



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[explorerowid]

i have a coffe grinder via meijer..for 14.99 and it works just fine it takes a few seconds is all and no harm to the grinder ... no worries.........be happy

[Hippie3]

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[Lazlo]

I disagree, I found a small bag (1lb 8 oz) of brf for like 4 bucks.. If you dont have a coffee grinder, I think just buying it would be cheaper...

Understandable if you don't own a blender, nor have the funds for one or are hiding your projects from someone. But, for $4 I can get a 10lb. bag of rice from Sam's or any other bulk supply stores for foods. The blender I bought was from Wally-World for $8. It's grinds 3-4 cups of whole grain rice well in about a minute. Now in the long run, this is by a long shot cheaper don't you think?

[Eldeeder]

Understandable if you don't own a blender, nor have the funds for one or are hiding your projects from someone. But, for $4 I can get a 10lb. bag of rice from Sam's or any other bulk supply stores for foods. The blender I bought was from Wally-World for $8. It's grinds 3-4 cups of whole grain rice well in about a minute. Now in the long run, this is by a long shot cheaper don't you think?

With all due respect, I have no issues paying 4 bucks for a pound and a half of flour... Convienience thing... I cant justify paying 10 bucks for a spore syrainge only to buy a blender to save a few bucks in the long run...

[Hippie3]

i have made thousands of jars over the years
and i'm utterly convinced that
grinding your own is by far the best choice.
gives you control over the fineness and freshness.

there's an old saying
"penny wise,
pound foolish"
it means that sometimes we
in trying to save a few cents
cost ourselves more in the long run.

i believe that this case is the same,
it is well worth the extra few bucks to get a grinder.
buying pre-made flour will just cost you
more time and more grief.

[MNL]

What hip said. And, if you get yourself a blender or magic bullet type thing you can do tissue clones like a pro. Make sure your blender will attach to a half pint jar.

I really like my magic bullet rip-off because I can do tissue cloning so easily. Just put a little bottled water in the blender cup, put the blade/lid thing on loosly, wrap in foil, and steam for 30 minutes (I use a veggi steamer). For clones, chuck a piece of flesh in the cup and blend (I add a little h2o2 as well). I get an almost black slurry, the blueing is intensified by the free oxygen in the h2o2. I have never suffered a contam with this method.

Anyway, a good blender can be as usefull as a big pressure cooker.