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#61 Peyote

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:03 AM

well when you make detailed posts ill read those.

no one is asking for their liberty handed to them on a platter.

i did a few days of research and found out yes..there is some truth in the things that numeric is saying.

but hes saying he did 6 years of research. I have a family, i have kids, i have a house, i have A LOT of shit to worry about at my age.

I personally don't think i am in a position to research and pursue this. I personally don't have time to go and study in a legal library.

so essentially this thread is useless to anyone who does not work, and who has any obligations, and who dosnt have a vast fortune to support them selves for 6 years as they research for them selves.

I could understand a persons cause if they just holed up in a house and studied FOR the sake of all humanity and all americans, and one day came out and exposed the truth.

but this seems like there will be no exposure, that every man is supposed to go and do this for themselves.


maybe thats the evil part of this system...that you have to not have a life in order to gain your liberty...

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:32 AM

so essentially this thread is useless to anyone who does not work, and who has any obligations, and who dosnt have a vast fortune to support them selves for 6 years as they research for them selves.

I could understand a persons cause if they just holed up in a house and studied FOR the sake of all humanity and all americans, and one day came out and exposed the truth.

but this seems like there will be no exposure, that every man is supposed to go and do this for themselves.


maybe thats the evil part of this system...that you have to not have a life in order to gain your liberty...


This is your perception of the situation, yes? There is a lot of generalization in the above statement and imo, doesn't necessarily bear out in reality.

Just my .02 postage...

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:36 AM

This is your perception of the situation, yes? There is a lot of generalization in the above statement and imo, doesn't necessarily bear out in reality.

Just my .02 postage...


all i know is i sent a letter for 2 cents inside and outside of the USA

both were delivered expeditiously with no postage due. i asked why? how?

so my perception of it does bear out in reality.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:44 AM

How does this:

all i know is i sent a letter for 2 cents inside and outside of the USA

both were delivered expeditiously with no postage due. i asked why? how?

so my perception of it does bear out in reality.


correspond to this?:

so essentially this thread is useless to anyone who does not work, and who has any obligations, and who dosnt have a vast fortune to support them selves for 6 years as they research for them selves.

I could understand a persons cause if they just holed up in a house and studied FOR the sake of all humanity and all americans, and one day came out and exposed the truth.

but this seems like there will be no exposure, that every man is supposed to go and do this for themselves.


maybe thats the evil part of this system...that you have to not have a life in order to gain your liberty...



#65 Il19z8rn4li1

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:03 AM

well when you make detailed posts ill read those.

no one is asking for their liberty handed to them on a platter.

i did a few days of research and found out yes..there is some truth in the things that numeric is saying.

but hes saying he did 6 years of research. I have a family, i have kids, i have a house, i have A LOT of shit to worry about at my age.

I personally don't think i am in a position to research and pursue this. I personally don't have time to go and study in a legal library.

so essentially this thread is useless to anyone who does not work, and who has any obligations, and who dosnt have a vast fortune to support them selves for 6 years as they research for them selves.

I could understand a persons cause if they just holed up in a house and studied FOR the sake of all humanity and all americans, and one day came out and exposed the truth.

but this seems like there will be no exposure, that every man is supposed to go and do this for themselves.


maybe thats the evil part of this system...that you have to not have a life in order to gain your liberty...


I might not have been super clear when I was explaining that
I do indeed have this time to spare and do such research, DID more accurately now.

I know i touched a little bit on the aspect of how much time is put into such a thing and that I fully understand why 99.9% of the population COULD NOT possibly have enough time to do any USEFUL research on these matters.

I am sorry that its like this, but i mean can anyone else think of a better
reason why the United States Code needs to be some 200,000 pages long?

My family and especially my brother has always said this when ever
talking to anyone about anything that I do with the "government"

My brother says,
"I personally dont have any time or the ability to do such research
on a topic that involves the deepest of study. I have a house payment
a job a wife and all this stuff that needs to be paid for and done first
and at the end of the day i surely dont wanna spend my spare time reading.
But someone has to do it i suppose, for if no one ever does then no one will
truly ever no, and if Il19z8rn4li1 has the time to pursue such craziness then
thats all the better for the rest of us and as soon as he figures it out im sure
he will figure out how to tell everyone at the same time"

Thats pretty much the gist of it.
and ya thats pretty much the evil aspect of the system, make it
so hard yet simple at the same time lol

They hide out in the open.



all i know is i sent a letter for 2 cents inside and outside of the USA

both were delivered expeditiously with no postage due. i asked why? how?

so my perception of it does bear out in reality.


The 2 cent mailing is the only responsible PROOF I can truly give.
Its something that will shock almost everyone and REALLY get them a thinking.
The 2 cent mailing is FAST and SAFE and it really makes you wonder
how your getting such great service from the USPS, well frankly your not getting
any service from them, the Post Office is handling your letters.

(Edit note, re-reading my own text I see a hell of a lot of slang talk lol
just put a little twang in your mind while reading and it makes so much more sense
ahha)


Side note:
I like to know and believe that in the end I am and I have studied all
of this "stuff" for the better of specially MYSELF, why? Because
I can NOT help anyone else until I help myself first. Its like you cant
help teach someone to tie their shoes if you dont know how to do it yourself
either.

So Peyote, I appreciate the comment that I bolded and underlined above.
For I believe that is my purpose and but still my ultimate goal is
start the abundance of Organic Food ;-)
I also gotta be aware that in the end it is very possible that what
I believed would help so much could indeed do equally as much damage.
Sucks... but one must be wary of any possible outcome in any
possible situation. Balance :-D

Soon enough Ill be able to write up a really nice DETAILED post
involving the process of something.
But until its as rock solid as the 2 cent mailing I will not be irresponsible
and share iffy information.

That is why im able to express the 2 cent mailing so openly without any
fear of anything ever happening to anyone. I would have to give out some
info that someone uses wrong and ends up in jail because of it... HORRIBLE lol

2 cent mailing with my format will work 100% of the time.
Im not someone that says 100% often for I know it doesnt exist just
as "perfect" doesnt exist in the common definition.
-I believe perfect means : Complete and Whole ;-)
But in the world of COMMERCE and TRUSTS and PAPERWORK and JARGON
100% PERFECTED documents MUST EXIST.



Sorry that was wordy... but maybe most of you will understand a little better
what is involved when your trying to be as clear as possible, and even
yet im not as clear as I could possibly be ;-)

Cheers.
Glad its civil in here now though hehe



edit_>>>>

August he meant, those that DO WORK, not "Do NOT work"
But i wouldnt take any offense to his comment, I mean I see where
your coming from int he aspect of his TEXT, but I wouldnt add
my own OPINION emotion to his TEXT hehe I know what he means
and its not any kind of attack its him MAYBE getting a little frustrated
with how much he just learned about his Government lol ;-)

Another side note on 2 cent mailing.
I have mailed to over 50 different countries around the world,
plus every single uS State
All 100% worked like a charm

Edited by Il19z8rn4li1, 11 June 2012 - 09:10 AM.


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Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:27 AM

And to think, money isn't even real to start with. It's a miracle, by gum.

Not even $.02 worth!

#67 Peyote

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:15 AM

How does this:



correspond to this?:



bro you think i am knocking numeric down. i am not. i am his biggest proponent here. (if you read up and see when this thread was about to be locked)

on a personal level i assume a person is a friend until proven otherwise.


but like i tell anne halonium all the time...allusion is good for literature, but if someone is to execute a tek you are posting about in REAL life. post up or shut up.

essentially alluding to ideas and concepts are fine and good for making your self mysterious, all of this is essentially a TEK, a tek with massive repercussions if it works...



lets say anne halonium grows a fist sized loph with the magic ingredient being gummy bears.

I follow her steps exactly but remove the gummy bears and get the exact same result.

OBVIOUSLY i would question anne halonium the author of the tek (not berate her or get angry at her but ask her what she thinks)

in this case i am questioning numeric.



this is a refined discussion among learned civilized people, let us proceed with it as such.

*sips his single malt scotch*

#68 Il19z8rn4li1

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 12:44 PM

Let me reiterate for the sake of organization :-D

Let me grab all the links and key info that I have posted in this thread
and post them in this reply so they are all in one easy location.

Now these are the details that i would be talking about, as well as August West.
These are the details that one must become fully familiar with. Comparing this
to a cacti tek is like comparing Tesla to Edison, two entities that can not compare
for they stand on completely different grounds.

This "stuff", as i like to call it, will NEVER be anything like any tek.
This is real world real time NOW kinda stuff lol. You cant really make a mistake
and try again unless you know how to cover your ass. (Void Where Prohibited by Law)

But if one would be using that phrase having in mind that it will always protect them
so it will be ok if they file this or that... well in my mind thats TRUE... but is
that being responsible? I would say, Not.

I COULD very well post a detailed tek on this jive, but you would be lacking the BACKGROUND
info... the details in between the lines. The REASON why all this is the way it is lol.
Now if you want to know that, I could elaborate on that but it would STRICTLY be my
opinion on why everything is the way it is lol Then this thread would
be way way off base, thats best suited in its OWN thread.

But back to the "tek".

It just doesnt work that way... Things change... you gotta be vigilant. Code change yearly.
Articles get revised constantly. One has to know that EVERYTHING MATTERS.
-The way you write something, whether its typed or hand written(hand written anything
is the strongest format of any document, over rides anything TYPED/PRINTED)
-The angle as which signatures are written.
-The color of ink one would use.
-The amount of $$$ on a stamp placed on the documents
-The specific location where that stamp is placed
-Cancelling out the stamp to give it consideration
-What side of the document signatures are located, Left or Right
-The means of transportation that was used between correspondents
-Whether a Notary is used
-HOW the Notary is used
-Ect ect.. lol

Ok i told myself id make this post shortish..
Here is a compilation of KEY WORDS and Links that one would
HAVE to know just as well as if they were having a test on it in school.
But the passing grade is 95% and higher, thats the catch :-D

I know some of you will simply find this shit amusing to the degree that
youll just like reading it. I to be honest LOVE reading this jive lol its all
so crazy and once you start understanding the jargon from reading the forms
and articles things just start to CLICK.

i would start from top and work your way down when comes to reading about
each of these.

Good reads
http://www.one-mind-...ersal-laws.html
http://www.freedomfi...-book.pdf<br />http://www.1215.org/...s/a4v.pdf<br />http://freedom-schoo...ime-exposed.pdf
http://freedom-schoo...pers-please.pdf
http://freedom-schoo...s-voluntary.pdf
http://freedom-school.com/



Audios



http://www.cic-root....e-201002-07.mp3

Reference Site
http://catsa4v.homes...ess-emails.html
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text

http://www.law.corne.../ucc.table.html
http://dictionary.law.com/

Depository Trust Company....
Surety
Conditional Acceptance
Due Process
Administrative Procedure
Registering & Assigning Interest (UCC1 + UCC3)


all of the above links and few key words are all things that
one must be familiar with. There is NO CHOICE, its either
steadily study the stuff over the next few years HERE AND THERE,
not saying you have to do what I did and accept ZERO life for a few years lol.
But just looking it over, I know some of you will most others wont.
Thats ok though, for those that do not have the time to do such things
is the reason I am here. I will for sure be able to do a lot of good once
I have perfected my claims. Such things that goal is to rid the world of MONEY
and flood it with abundance of food :-D So again, those links and
words are MORE then enough to lead anyone on their pretty much endless
journey of learning the system and actually how great it CAN be. Just
hard to convince the minions you know your shit lol. Its the corruption
that makes it seem so horrible. People DO have a choice
when it comes to , "Do you want to be 100% responsible for your life
and family or only partially?"
Some people like it one way some like it another, I had a taste of how
the other side is and hum... i want more lol


Im very aware of the put up or shut up rule :-D I live by it pretty much.
But this isnt something I could just put up without feeling guilty
knowing that someone will use it the wrong way. Shits to powerful
to just share on the web. lol
The best tool i have at my disposal to express any validity behind all of this
is merely the 2 cent mailing and its ancient history.

:-D nonetheless I love talking about this stuff.

Edited by Il19z8rn4li1, 11 June 2012 - 12:55 PM.


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Posted 11 June 2012 - 01:30 PM

see this is what im talking about...now i have something to do for the next 2 weeks

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 03:26 PM

so... does that mean I did good?

hehe

I welcome all questions, but remember they must be the right question
and the answers might not be exactly as how you wanna hear them.

more time then not with the subject I will usually give you a PATH to follow
so you can find the answer yourself. Believe me, taking the path I lay
down is a good move hehehe shits all over the place. One could lose
their mind searching through everything, luckily I only lost a few years of my life
and not my mind or family ;-)

To be honest, if was to get "everyone" up to speed, there
would be chaos and havoc within this thread...
im sure of this lol...
Until you start speaking in such a way, I will then know when
one would be ready to hear what it is I have been doing lol
If that makes any sense at all...

It might sound like im conceded or im full of myself i know, but
in all truthfulness im not, as I am so much more protecting you instead.



Edited by Il19z8rn4li1, 11 June 2012 - 03:31 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:20 PM

went into court yesterday...

and beat the PANTS of an administrative law judge. told them Swiper no swiping ... city of new york said "AWWWW maaaannnnn"

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:57 AM

went into court yesterday...

and beat the PANTS of an administrative law judge. told them Swiper no swiping ... city of new york said "AWWWW maaaannnnn"


no way you just said, "Swiper no swiping" hahahahh


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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:23 AM

swim sent a letter to a place letters aren't supposed to go .. parking ticket payment
you 'HAVE TO SHOW UP IN PERSON - NO CORRESPONDENCE ACCEPTED BY MAIL' ).

swims letter said:
i had tried calling their phone numerous times getting a busy signal,
i was too busy to phone again,
included are parking meter receipts,
please send an invoice.
signed and dated.

a letter arrived to inform swim the ticket was cancelled :)

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:28 AM

swim sent a letter to a place letters aren't supposed to go .. parking ticket payment
you 'HAVE TO SHOW UP IN PERSON - NO CORRESPONDENCE ACCEPTED BY MAIL' ).

swims letter said:
i had tried calling their phone numerous times getting a busy signal,
i was too busy to phone again,
included are parking meter receipts,
please send an invoice.
signed and dated.

a letter arrived to inform swim the ticket was cancelled
:)


My life story ^^^ lol

nice good story, I have heard and was involved in countless identical scenarios.
Its funny what words and what "images" cause things to just POOF, disappear.

Some of them wanna be assholes though and try to challenge you and want you to
PROVE that you KNOW what exactly it was that YOU did/sent to them...

They like to challenge A LOT, until you have done it so many times that THEY ALL
know you(atleast are given a mono about you so they are aware lol)

Im glad to hear this though my friend.


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Posted 30 July 2012 - 12:45 AM


no way you just said, "Swiper no swiping" hahahahh


i said it at the end....as i walked out... "swiper no swiping"

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 10:51 PM

to everyone at mycotopia:

i would like to state (on and for the record) that i owe Il19z8rn4li1 my deepest and most sincere apologies...

i have been studying and the more i studied about this the more i lost sleep the more i read. I now realize why numeric was reluctant to talk about this stuff..

its almost impossible to explain

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 07:51 AM

to everyone at mycotopia:

i would like to state (on and for the record) that i owe Il19z8rn4li1 my deepest and most sincere apologies...

i have been studying and the more i studied about this the more i lost sleep the more i read. I now realize why numeric was reluctant to talk about this stuff..

its almost impossible to explain


Brother man... what did I say... dont lose yourself, it can easily be done when you study this JIVE, BELIEVE ME!!!
I lost myself for a STRAIGHT 2 years... had no life...

Im glad that you said that though :D I mean... I may TALK a lot... but I dont talk bullshit...
What I feel is what I feel... tis my intuition doesnt lie to me... nor does anyone elses' intuition lie
to them.


Studying this stuff... will FOR SURE make 1 thing happen... and thats bring you to the realization
of HOW and WHY the world is the way it is... youll dive DEEP DEEP DEEP into history.

What this has done for me... was well... it has forced me to make the decision to do as much
as I can do start the abundance of food which is the ROOT source of everything.
Become clouded from what you eat, and you wont be able to see the world.




side note on the swiper no swiping... makes me think of my niece and nephew.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AarHxXD_vKY



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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:10 AM

I have already filed an appeal, to my case, i have also submitted on to record that my consulting rate in the practice of lawyer-craft is 500.00 an hour if any judgments against me are dismissed, void, vacated, or dismissed.

i will update on my progress

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:30 PM

I have already filed an appeal, to my case, i have also submitted on to record that my consulting rate in the practice of lawyer-craft is 500.00 an hour if any judgments against me are dismissed, void, vacated, or dismissed.

i will update on my progress



Nice, you now realize that its all a paper game and you simply need to know the "jargon" hehe


In my opinion i find it all VERY fun and interesting as hell... like you do all this research and then once
your finally in court you get to PROVE all of your research not just know its true and what must stand
in court and in law and in the world of society as we know it :)

im excited for you my friend. Do be careful, they are snakes that lie in the grass and will do anything.

Force your remedy of recourse because it there for the taking.


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Posted 31 July 2012 - 05:56 PM

Finally got around to actually reading this thread. Nice.
Looks like all this free-time from a downed economy (lol) is going to be a real blessing is disguise.




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