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[chad1910]

I have recently smoked some salvia 12X extract and a couple days later smoked some salvia 40X and didn’t seem to notice that much a difference. I was wondering if anyone else thought there wasn’t much of a difference in the two. I was also wondering if I could get someone’s expert opinion if it is worth paying the extra dough to get the extra X?

Thanks

[llama]

Were they from the same source? That could make a huge difference.

[lsd_freak]

its deffinately worth it a 40x mean that one gram is the equivilant of 40 grams plain, so yo can see thats almost 4 times stronger than the 12x. the source plays a huge differance in how strong it'll be, also there are two types of extractions. standardized and non-standardized. non means they just did a one time extraction and the extract is only the "x" times the strength of THEIR plain, where as standardized the salvorian-a (the active in salvia) is extracted and purified, then a measured amount is put onto a gram of plain leaves, so there is no variation in potency. If your looking to experiment with differant strengths, order an ounce of plain leaves and make your own extracts. an ounce of leaves is $15 from our sponcer http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com i've ordered from them and their salvia was pretty decent. Also there are companies that sell pure salvorian-a, but be carefull, smoking pure salvorian-a is alot differant from smoking salvia, its not as forgiving and it can be very scary, pluss the threshold for salvorian-a is around 300micrograms (about 1/3 of a milligram)

[dead_diver]

I made some unstandardized 50X (that was as strong as I gould get it and still get it to dry completely). It was way too potent for practicle use. Just a tiny whif of smoke would put me in orbit. I like 3-5X soaked into weed best.

[drumdidly]

how did you extract it?
ive been hearing a lot about salvia lately
but never have i tried it
i was thinking of buying an ounce of leaves
and extracting it
but i dont know what is the best way
to do so.

thanks

[lsd_freak]

take a measured amount of leaves, and soak them in alcohol, strong alcohol, like everclear (95%). if you cant get everclear, strong rubbing alcohol works, the higher the pecentage the better. then let the leaves soak it it for a day or so, the alcohol will turn green. then seperate the alcohol from the leaves, and then take a gram of the leaves that you extracted the good stuff from, and let the alcohol evaporate off onto that gram. however many grams you started with is the "x" ex- 10 grams makes a 10x. if you use new leaves for the gram insted of the ones you extracted the salvorian-a from, its 1x higher because there is still that grams salvorian-a pluss that of the alcohol. let it evaporate completely though, and keep scraping the sides of the dish you've got it evaporating in, so it keeps concentrating down insted of just drying to the sides.

[dead_diver]

I used Tech Grade Acetone but any good acetone will work just test it by evaporating some on glass to be sure.

[Beast]

What about the butane tek for making honey oil with cannabis bud/trim? Will that work with salvia divinorum as well? I'm ignorant to the properties of different solvents: water, alcohol, acetone, butane, naptha... Is it possible to identify which solvent works for which organic chemical with out taking a couple courses on organic chemistry? I've seen teks using acetone naptha and isopropl alcohol in different steps for salvinorin extractions, though none for butane, though no specification as to why the ommission of butane as well as the order of solvents used in multiple extractions? or is order not important? I'm not into blindly following instructions without having some sort of idea about what's going on, hence the desire for knowledge, otherwise I'd just blindly follow every tek out there, but anyone who's read the anarchist's cookbook knows that knowledge is better than ignorant step following....

[lsd_freak]

mine that i listed is the easiest and probably the cheapest way to do it. and its full proof. just make sure that all the alcohol has evaporated off before you smoke it. a flask of everclear is around $3-5 (any time i've gotten it), and a bottle of rubbing alcohol is like $1-3, so you cant get much cheaper than that.

[dead_diver]

I have wondered about butane myself. Even if it didn't extract the goodies it wouldn't hurt the leaf.

[cactus_muncher]

never exstracted salvia but I love smokeing the 40x and trying to sink into the floor I think I will try and exstract some it might be a fun exsperament

[Hippie3]

the 40x i got b4 wasn't that much stronger than 10x, imho.
think it was a bit of a rip-off,
got it from some shop in the UK.
:(

[dead_diver]

the 40x i got b4 wasn't that much stronger than 10x, imho.

I have tried 10x store bought Salvia and it was more like a 5X when compared to my homemade 10X. That was the only time I smoked commercial Salvia and I was impressed with it. But after that I found it much cheaper to buy bulk leaf and make my own. I experimented with making a 50X and that was the strongest extract I could get without it being gummy. And there is a huge difference in 10X and 50X when smoked. Half a match head of 50X would put me over the edge. Now I only use low doses mixed with weed and find it to be more comfortable. With 3x soaked weed I can mantain a nice psychedelic buzz as long as I want without losing control. Every time I smoke 10X it's like getting knocked on the head with a brick LOL

[Hippie3]

3x soaked weed eh ?
now that sounds interesting indeed.
;)

[dead_diver]

That's the way I like it. I use a leaf that is probably stronger than average to begin with. Of course I have no way to quantitate the amount of Salvinorin in the leaf or finished product so all extract strengths are relative.

[Hippie3]

can you describe, plz, the 'high' you get on that combo ?

[dead_diver]

It has a very tryptamine feeling to it. I get trails, patterns, distorted perception of my surroundings, etc. similar to a good hit of acid but with an uncoordinated feeling that I don't get on shrooms or acid. I like to soak full buds in it and use shake to sop up what is left. If you dry the buds real well they will soak it up like a sponge and it's pretty evenly distributed but the trick is to use as dry as possible bud. It doesn't have to be the best quality bud becuase you will be too high to notice the difference. Commercial works fine and is usualy pretty dry to begin with. Overnight in a sealed container with some damp rid gets it just right ;)

[dead_diver]

The main reason I started soaking weed with it is because I found that when I smoke weed with Salvia I don't get the sweats for some reason. No weed and I sweat like crazy. Go figure?

[ShadowBoom]

Hi, I was just wondering what smoking salvia is like. My friends and I are planning a camping trip sometime soon and will be endulging on some Cubensis during the day (from like 12:00pm - 4:00) And then after that we were considering trying som Salvia 10x.

We have shroomed many a time but Salvia would be a totally new experience. There are four of us in total. How do you guys recommend we go about it?

We considered possibly smoking the salvia while tripping on shrooms, is that advisable? Keep in mind, we are all very responsible about what we do and we do not "fuck" with eachother or anything like that. We try to keep eachother as comfortable as possible.

Also, do you guys recommend we try it one at a time and monitor each other? Or just pass the bong around like marijuana?

Thanks.

[b0b]

Do it one at a time. I don't know about salvia while shrooming, I've never done it like that. But it doesn't sound like a great idea if you've never smoked salvia before. Have fun.