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#1 Il19z8rn4li1

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 09:30 AM

Hello friends, as most of you know I am a gardener by livelihood which is also
my hobby and passion, tis all i do :-D

SO you gotta imagine I have to deal with quite the amount of BUGS every
year in my garden.

Well, im now going to make a thread that describes exactly how I deal with my
PESTS, NATURALLY. I will go through how I make all of my stuff...

Just read this ENTIRE thread and youll know all I know in regards
of making natural PEST sprays that dont harm pollinators from what I have noticed
through the years. Im sure ill miss some things and forget some others as well,
but thats not to say that I wont just reply to this thread and add then in :-D



This is what I USE and thats that, its what I have used for over 5 years with
GREAT success...I dont wanna hear any replies or comments regarding
my recipes saying that they are BAD or WONT WORK because well if you say
something of that nature you simply didnt use my recipes yet and only read
the recipe. This thread is to help the people they are trying to keep their
gardens CLEAN and Pesticide FREE, this is how you do it....

Ok as some of you may know, you NEVER i mean NEVER wanna use a
remedy that will KILL a bug, this is bad news for you if you do.
Using these kinda means of ridding your garden will only result in the bugs
building up an immunity to your actions, in turn making the bugs STRONGER.
BIG NO NO.
(Only exception to this is Diatomaceous Earth which is to bugs as Broken glass is to us,
and well you cant really become immune to broken glass lol)


Okkie Dokkie here we go.

I use a NUMBER of sprays that are HOME MADE, most ingredients from
DIRECTLY from my garden from prior year.
I have different recipes because I wouldnt want to bugs to get used to anything
that I spray, so I change it up on them.

The WHOLE principle around my style of spraying for Pests is NOT TO KILL THEM,
but instead to change the taste of THEIR FOOD to a flavor thats HORRIBLE and
they most certainly WILL NOT EAT because of the taste.

All ingredients used are NATURAL/ORGANIC..... aka CLEAN
Before you get into some of the recipes youll need to learn how to make
SOME of the ingredients that are needed such as Pepper "Oil/Heat" and
garlic oil.


Pepper Heat-

Get some RED HOT PEPPERS, stem them and dry them then crush them, Seeds Included.
Take Half Cup of crushed peppers add to 2 cups of simmering water plus 2 shots 40% alcohol, let
pepper hydrate in this water for 10mins. Take off heat, BLEND for a few minutes till
its like Puree. Let puree sit for 1-2 days. Alcohol burns off in those 10mins of simmering.
Strain pepper puree with cheese cloth or coffee filter keep this mixture in a jar with lid,
i store mine in dark cool place. Should be VERY STRONG and have a not so pleasant smell.
You should end up with about 1-1.5 cups of pepper liquid heat stuff.
(I know you can extract the capsaicin with just alchy then evap but I think that is a little over kill
and I never needed to make my sprays any stronger then they already are. Making it that
way your actually extracting pure capsaicin and will be QUITE strong lol)
Always shake well before use.


Garlic Oil- Short Handed

Take 2-3 BULBS of garlic, skin them and blend the cloves in a food process will
its a Puree. Add roughly 1 cup of HOT water.
Blend again to mix the water around good.
Let sit for 1-2 days, blending every 5-7 hours.
(I prefer to leave mine in the sun through this waiting time... let it cook kinda lol)
After the sitting period, strain the goo with cheesecloth or coffee filter, I recommend
cheesecloth so you can twist it tight to get all of the goodies out.
Store in same kinda jar as the Pepper Heat.
Always shake well before use


Garlic Oil - Long Handed (Preferred)

This recipe is for people who have A LOT of garlic and have the time.
Get as much garlic as you can.. and a LARGE jar, half gallon jar works great for this.
Puree all your garlic really well.
Place all garlic in a large pot, add enough water so that the puree is nice and loose
and you can stir it easily. Get the water to a boil then remove.
Take fine screen strainer and place over another large pot.
Pour the water garlic puree mixture through the fine strainer, then take
some additional boiling hot water and RINSE through the garlic puree again.
Do this as many times as you feel fit to, i do it about 2-3 times.
NOW youll have all the garlic juice and oils in the new large pot.
Take that liquid and pour it into your large JAR, use a jar because its tall... will
make for easier grabbing of the oils when it separates.
Let this jar sit for a few weeks if not MONTHS, the PURE garlic oil
will rise and water will sink, once you see this happen simply use turkey baster or
syringe to soak out the oil, or if your fancy and have an oil separator use that ;-)
Store in jar as well, and always shake well before use.
PURE Garlic oil :-D
Ok now you guys know how to make those 2 necessities we can move on :D
All measurements are intended for 1 gallon of water.


Recipe #1

1 TABLEspoon Garlic Oil/Juice
1 TABLEspoon Pepper HEAT
1
TEAspoon Dr. Bronner's Eucalyptus Natural Soap


Recipe #2
1 TABLEspoon Neem Oil
1 TABLEspoon Canola Oil


Recipe #3
1 TABLEspoon Olive Oil
1
TEAspoon Dr. Bronner's Peppermint Natural Soap


Recipe #4
4 TABLEspoon DRY MILK or Organic WHOLE milk
4 TABLEspoon Tea Tree Oil
1 TABLEspoon Pepper Heat
(I know i might get some hell from some of you regarding #4 recipe...
but remember its diluted to 1 gallon of water....this recipe is directly and geared
more toward the Fungus mildew aspect of issues with plants, WORKS GREAT)


Recipe #5
Simply puff ENTIRE garden with a little dusting of Diatomaceous Earth.
Preferably do this when plants are NOT flowering, wouldnt
want any of this stuff to get on our bee friends now would we.

If you have an infestation problem... triple the recipes

Now if it DOES NOT rain, I spray my plants EVER OTHER DAY, using
a different recipe each spraying, usually just following them in order.

It changes the flavors of the plants so much that the pests just dont ever
really show up. Biggest tip i can give anyone in preventing bugs is to
get on the spraying as soon as possible, best hit the plants when they are babies
so that any pest bug that is in the area doesnt taste anything GOOD to give
it a reason to stick around.


If it rains you MUST spray the plants INSTANTLY after the rain it finished and the
plants dry up.


If you follow this regimen of spraying and preventative spraying, you should be
bug free in the garden :-D I know I am....

Feel free to mess around with the amounts if you wish.
I have added as much as a half cup of garlic oil to 1 gallon of water before
without any ill effects toward the plants :-D Same for the Pepper Heat.
I woudnt go much more then 1 cup per gallon of any of the oils.

If anything, I might even say it looks like the plants seem to be a little more hardy :-D

Just like anything in this world... Due Diligence will prevail :-D
You get out what you put in.

Cheers everyone,
hope this helps some people with their bug problems.







Little bits of information I've picked up over the years.

All BUGS, specifically BEETLES have a PROTECTIVE membrane on them.
This membrane protects them from the ELEMENTS of mother nature, most importantly
from the SUN and WIND ;-) EI: From drying out, dehydration

Soap doing what it does... when added to a solution to be sprayed on plants
and directly on bugs WASHES off this protective membrane exposing the entire
bugs body and mind to the wraith of mother nature...

Quickly the bug will most likely DRY UP from losing their membrane OR will
be over taken by some fungus or disease, they become VERY VERY vulnerable
after sprayed with soapy oily solutions.

Now let me explain a little bit about these OILS and what happens when they hit
bugs :-D
Most bugs breathe through their "Skin/body"... well as you can imagine these oils are
going to CLOG up the bugs pours... so they now can not breath when sprayed with a
solution that contains some oils. This is the importance of ALWAYS shaking your sprayer
when your spraying your plants, mixing the solution constantly.


NOW... let me explain how these both, soap and oils, work with PLANTS :-D
Its pretty simple... the soap rinses off the little waxy surface of the plant leaves,
allowing the OILS to stick ;-) Any bug that bits that oil laid leaf will get a mouth full
of whatever was infused into that oil, EI: Garlic...hotness...neem...ect..ect..


Shits pretty neat isnt it :-D :-D !!!! I love this stuff hehehe








Side note....
These recipes are for 1 gallon completed solutions.
This 1 gallon can treat a garden thats about 20' x 20'
If you have a LARGE garden like me and require MORE solution
dont be afraid to ask me for the 55 gallon recipe that
you can then use a pump and garden hose to spray your garden.
This is my preferred method when bugs are getting serious.
BUt I also do this ONCE a year as a preventative and that is
when my plants are all about 3+ feet tall... pump sprayer just doesnt
cut it when you gotta spray 3+ foot tall plants, you need some power
behind the spray lol.


Extra Advice that come from my opinions and experience :-D
The best piece of advice I like to give people in regards to PEST BUGS... is YOU MUST HAVE almost ZERO WEEDS...
ONLY have your GOOD PLANTS... weeds should NOT EXIST, they do nothing but bad for a garden. If you got bare spots in your garden that you think weeds will pop up in, then mulch
that area with some extra mulch if you got some.. if you dont then plant a cover crop
there like beans.

One of my favorites :-D
Once you got some decent plants that are established, say 1-2 feet tall...
you can have a little natural wood FIRE within your garden to add SMOKE in the wind.
Add a little leaves to increase smoke. The wind will take the smoke and blow
it all over your garden and plants... bugs dont like smoke so much. This might only do
a little bit but this is just one more little thing that can help your garden out, plus
who doesnt like a camp fire....




EDIT...
OMFG... i god damn hate this auto format bullshit
that happens when you click "Go Advanced" to edit a post... RETARDED....
Now I gotta go back and re-space everything, MEH lol.
You have NO IDEA how many times this has happened to me on this forum lol

Edited by Il19z8rn4li1, 25 June 2012 - 02:04 PM.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 09:56 AM

im a big believer in neem...........

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:06 AM

im a big believer in neem...........


I'll be honest, I dont use that much Neem, notice its only in one recipe.
Sometimes I even leave it out because my bug problems are usually very minimal, PLUS
its expensive.
Its Organic and Natural yes... but meh still kinda rubs me the wrong way lol..
PLUS it taste absolutely HORRIBLE lol it so bitter/starchy... like WHOA let me tell ya lol.

Neem is good to use when your bug problems are SERIOUS...


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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:45 AM

I was wondering about tea tree oil and how well it would work compared to neem I havent looked very hard for neem oil I always have tea tree oil
I know garlic is a great one I have it planted all over the garden to help deture the pests
I have a friend that grows wild garlic and gives me a ton of it Onions work similar this way
I also plant the garlic that starts to grow
I have noticed some plants in the garden that are not effected one plant contains sap-ions and peppermint isnt touched at all either maybe these plants could help me rid the pests ?
Love the ideas bud I am having a big beetle problem I like to handle things organically and I do not want to harm our friendly bugs need them for the vegetables ;)

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 10:59 AM

I was wondering about tea tree oil and how well it would work compared to neem I havent looked very hard for neem oil I always have tea tree oil
I know garlic is a great one I have it planted all over the garden to help deture the pests
I have a friend that grows wild garlic and gives me a ton of it Onions work similar this way
I also plant the garlic that starts to grow
I have noticed some plants in the garden that are not effected one plant contains sap-ions and peppermint isnt touched at all either maybe these plants could help me rid the pests ?
Love the ideas bud I am having a big beetle problem I like to handle things organically and I do not want to harm our friendly bugs need them for the vegetables ;)



tea tree oil is in recipe #4 i believe...
If you notice plants in your garden that are NOT being attacked by any bugs... see what plants
they are and search them... like peppermint.. you can also take some of that grind it up and
rinse it through just like the garlic and get a solution from it, and spray that on your plants.

you can also do the same with ALL HERBS... no bugs eat any HERBS.
None that I have seen at least, especially Basil or Sage... VERY STRONG.
My remedies for pests in my first post is not at all limited to that, like I said some things I will forget im sure,
there are just so many, i could write a book lol.

What I posted is what works for SURE, and what I have stuck with for YEARS without any failure.
Of course their are many other great plants, and you know what I say add them to what I posted
and youll have an even LARGER arsenal of sprays to combat those pesky bugs :-D


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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:44 PM

I will take notes on them for sure :)
Great ideas add some book in here I will help ya remember ;)

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:26 PM

Great information, Thank you.:)
I'm always on the look out for organic alternatives to pesticides.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 03:28 PM

I use that greenlight fruit tree spray on everything, it's got neem oil and pyrethrum in it and has that garlic and orange peel smell to it. It comes pretty concentrated so it's easy to over do it but it does seem to keep the bugs at bay. It also contains Piperonyl butoxide in it which isn't exactly organic, read the wiki, I don't know if it has the potential to make children slightly retarded or not.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 04:53 PM

very helpful information thanks will ahve to try some of the homemade sprays in my garden.

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 10:05 PM

I was thinking about my weeds today and it had me interested in looking up the nutrient content of some weeds I know Dandelion have potassium vitamin A and many more now adding these type of weeds to our sprays could do a lot of fertilizing Organically .... I was adding some as a mulch and I put some in the compost too but why not make sprays out of the weeds that have nutes to match the veggies etc .....

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:54 AM

Thanks for this thread.
Been on my mind lately.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 12:33 PM

Thanks man for the recipes it will help my bug battle. Caterpillars on my melons and worms in peppers amongst fungal and bacterial diseases all trying to claim my garden.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 12:58 PM

Thanks for this thread.
Been on my mind lately.

No problem, I really picked my brain for a while to try and remember as much
as I can... sometimes there are just so many things that im doing as the season
passes that I cant even remember some things that were done lol, it just flows :-D



Thanks man for the recipes it will help my bug battle. Caterpillars on my melons and worms in peppers amongst fungal and bacterial diseases all trying to claim my garden.


Oh Cats and Worms those are little buggers alright, but are some of the easiest of bugs to get rid of for
they eat the entire leaf so any flavor change is VERY apparent to them hehe so they sca-dad-el :-D

everything you just mentioned can be cured with these recipes and using them all together, not at the same time of course
but just one after another. Bingo Bango youll be on the go go for some healthy plants :-D


Im in the Northeast USA... Great lake region... and we get some weather here, and LOTS of buggies..
but this year my garden really shined with its corn being "Knee high by 4 of JUNE" hahaha
Granted I seen some Chem Farms corn the same height as mine if not higher... but thats
is just somethign that REALLY put the POISON into greater perspective to me lol WHOA is all
i gotta say.

but ya needless to say, all credit goes to the sprays and brews that I apply to the garden, they are the
little tiny workers making the difference :-D

Cheers.
Spread these recipes to your friends and family, they work :-D


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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:31 PM

Awesome thread! I have just a little raised bed/container garden so I have to make the most out of the space, and don't want to share the bounty with the wildlife (notice I didn't say "bugs"). I'll be trying this stuff out since I hate using poisons.

One thing I have to take issue with is about bugs not eating herbs. Some little critter ate the hell out of my basil when I first put it out this spring. The new batch is OK but I watch it like a hawk.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 03:03 PM

ya sometimes herbals get it bad too ... but some herbals don't cause they are really strong smelling My Oregano has a bug or something wrong with it too disease maybe .... My corn is maybe a foot tall what nutes does corn need I think nitrogen is a big one right ? maybe some worm compost water could help them catch up a bit ? I have a fast maturing corn as I have a bit of a shorter growing season than you do bud a bit further north of the great lakes Canadian side ....

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:14 PM

buddy had an infestation of colorado potato beetles, diatoms didn't do it,
he ended them by rapping each plant over a pan to dislodge, collect, and then..
i'll keep these recipes in mind for him :)

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 05:24 PM

I have never seen one of thoes beetles until this year I think they are thriving this year for some reason

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 06:36 PM

The initial reason I registered here was to find a solution to the ambrosia beetle problem on my shiitake logs. It's too late now, but there's still next year. I searched the first post for "beetle" and got the soap thing as the first hit. Which recipe would go best with soap for those little tiny beetles that bore into my logs and plant the competing fungus they like best?

All I could find in books about the ambrosia beetles was to cover the logs with fine mesh. I was just smashing them as fast as I could where I could reach them. I didn't do very well and would love an organic solution that won't hurt my log culture.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:43 AM

hey, great advice, thanks!

allthough i dont agree with no weeds in the garden. i love to have a little spot with native plants. real nature and in nature weeds dont exist. or weeds that has been extincted so they can resow them in the real nature... or sometimes i like to take some forest ground, put it in the garden and let nature do its work.

i hope your great tips work, even if i dont have a 'weed' free garden, but still, weeds dont exist. they are only plants on the wrong spot or in a wrong amount. :)
i even see some nettle seeds on a market, because it can be a really functinal plant (now that is going a bit to far for me, to sow nettles yourself :D )

peace



edit: i wonder. i hate those cale buggs, but what with butterflies? i love them, but dont they legh eggs that make an infestation? (i dont know so i ask :p )
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 09:35 AM

:) Like the reason I am trying to grow milkweed in my yard to feed The Monarch Butterfly's and their baby caterpillars
I love my weeds native or the ones we brought to this land some of the weeds found in our grasses and laws were plants brought here for our medicinal and food uses for us or the animals we brought here they are not weeds at all they were our food our vegetables and some grow better here than the other veggies in our gardens we are trying to save every year put a ton of effort in for a tiny reward .... why not grow our weeds they are very useful
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