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The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies, Infiltrators, Saboteurs, and Undercover Pigs


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#21 benderislord

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:46 PM

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#22 TVCasualty

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:05 AM

Perhaps it's time to start a little game called "spot the Disinformationalist" or finding and listing examples of listed techniques for truth suppression.

And it might be helpful for those new to the game (and for reminding others to be aware) if this thread were made a sticky. Well, at least until it's no longer needed, which it seems to be these days. :eusa_sile

#23 LilBear

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:29 AM

I wonder why it isn't already a sticky hahaha

#24 dead head jed

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:28 PM

I wonder why it isn't already a sticky hahaha


isn't it obvious
TV
IS
the subversive

why else would he post this
i don't know about you, but every episode of scooby doo i watch it is always the guy who hires the kids that ends up being the ghost or werewolf or what ever

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:25 AM

yeah, dead jed, i hear you on that...

TV has suspicously done several of the things the post warns against:

he said we need to become impervious to insult and flatery, but talked about how thick-skined and unemotional intelligence training makes one. unemotional but emotional ... which exemplifies the story about the pilot who is educated but not educated

then he suggests emulating iraqi insurgents like a provocatuer would

in fact this whole thread and the suggestion we should start a witch hunt looking for disinformation agents, is an example of recruitment to distraction from what we should actually be doing ...

then he causes us to doubt our cellphones .... which would slow down communication

i used to think i knew what TV was about ... but now.... i dont know ...

clearly, he deserves a closer look

is he really one of us ???

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:27 AM

yeah, dead jed, i hear you on that...

TV has suspicously done several of the things the post warns against:

he said we need to become impervious to insult and flatery, but talked about how thick-skined and unemotional intelligence training makes one. unemotional but emotional ... which exemplifies the story about the pilot who is educated but not educated

then he suggests emulating iraqi insurgents like a provocatuer would

in fact this whole thread and the suggestion we should start a witch hunt looking for disinformation agents, is an example of recruitment to distraction from what we should actually be doing ...

then he causes us to doubt our cellphones .... which would slow down communication

i used to think i knew what TV was about ... but now.... i dont know ...

clearly, he deserves a closer look

is he really one of us ???


I also got that feeling halfway through, but decided to finish. It's almost as if they are able to accomplish exactly what they are preaching... as topiates innocently bump in favor of letting others know of these false truths. How do we know who to trust nowadays?

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 03:49 AM

I wrote a lot here. It's gone now, to be reposted in a different thread.

All I can say is fear inhibits progress. We are ruled by fear and treachery. To follow distrust with
everyone would limit us terribly. Even though Man cannot be fully trusted, it's best to work together
in the time we're here. To band together and make this a better place for the future if possible.
Being a team will get us much farther.

Much love to all, even those trying to break us down.


Edited by ams1992, 31 October 2012 - 04:18 AM.

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 06:27 AM

How do we know who to trust nowadays?


Well that's easy: No one.

Except me, that is. You should PM me your phone number in case they try to shut, uhh.... well, just in case. :eusa_shhh


Incidentally, I only bump this thread when something in it appears to be happening, such as (in this instance) a forum slide in progress. :reb:
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 08:05 AM

anyone can be this or that
or change from this to that
experience alters us all :)
we're mostly small potatoes still imo

i'd be more worried about stagnation, closed minds,
lack of exploration, infighting, ..

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:54 PM

yeah, dead jed, i hear you on that...

TV has suspicously done several of the things the post warns against:

he said we need to become impervious to insult and flatery, but talked about how thick-skined and unemotional intelligence training makes one. unemotional but emotional ... which exemplifies the story about the pilot who is educated but not educated

then he suggests emulating iraqi insurgents like a provocatuer would

in fact this whole thread and the suggestion we should start a witch hunt looking for disinformation agents, is an example of recruitment to distraction from what we should actually be doing ...

then he causes us to doubt our cellphones .... which would slow down communication

i used to think i knew what TV was about ... but now.... i dont know ...

clearly, he deserves a closer look

is he really one of us ???


lol.. well played sir

#31 LilBear

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 10:03 PM

anyone can be this or that
or change from this to that
experience alters us all :)
we're mostly small potatoes still imo

i'd be more worried about stagnation, closed minds,
lack of exploration, infighting, ..


That's my thang,
and my peeve.

for example, the USA CORP thread.
sadly tanked, due to infighting.
now, no one plays the blame game,
or rather, no one should.
but that's why this thread here is interesting.
Just watching those that magically make anything personal.

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Posted 26 October 2020 - 08:44 AM

this used to be pinned to 8chan.

a good read for anyone doing anything questionable, or talking politics online.

 

but i find that it is a bit over the top for mushrooms

 

despite what many cannabis and psychadelic advocates believe to reinforce their own hero complexes and live in their own fantasy of being some kind of against the grain rebels, no one is searching for you, no collective entity is trying to stop you from growing 3 dubtubs, or 20 66gallon monos. almost everyone on this site is irrelevant to law enforcement, and there is no big baddie out there trying to shut down psychadelics. 

 

so while an awesome tool for understanding how political operatives work it is awesome.. but the likelihood of any of this being used here is borderline silly

 

duncan lemp was shot in his sleep by a government hit squad.

terence mckenna died peacefully.

 

:rolleyes:


Edited by BrotherDekatessera, 26 October 2020 - 08:58 AM.


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Posted 27 October 2020 - 02:37 AM

IMO it depends where you live, there is a lot of geographical variation in laws and tolerance towards mushrooms cultivation. Therefore I wouldn't be so quick to think that we are safe . A test is surely needed to determine this.

 

I think that the best test for how high mushroom cultivation is on the law enforcement priority scale is something I call the crazy angry ex test. The steps are simple. First you must piss off your partner enough to end the relationships and have them desire you in jail as she calls the cops to rat your mushroom grows out. Secondly wait and see if law enforcement shows up.

 

Of course there are other variations of this test. The surprise landlord inspection test, or- if you want- post your private information online in a mushroom forum like this one and see if you get a visit.

 

I get what you are saying. The instructional is outdated and mostly overkill for us mushroom cultivators yet the things we do are still illegal in most places around the world. All in all I think that a informational specifically for the OMC would be better suited as well as general guidelines to staying safe as a mushroom cultivator in the psychedelic scene.



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Posted 27 October 2020 - 07:20 AM

this used to be pinned to 8chan.

a good read for anyone doing anything questionable, or talking politics online.

 

but i find that it is a bit over the top for mushrooms

 

despite what many cannabis and psychadelic advocates believe to reinforce their own hero complexes and live in their own fantasy of being some kind of against the grain rebels, no one is searching for you, no collective entity is trying to stop you from growing 3 dubtubs, or 20 66gallon monos. almost everyone on this site is irrelevant to law enforcement, and there is no big baddie out there trying to shut down psychadelics. 

 

so while an awesome tool for understanding how political operatives work it is awesome.. but the likelihood of any of this being used here is borderline silly

 

duncan lemp was shot in his sleep by a government hit squad.

terence mckenna died peacefully.

 

:rolleyes:

 

I heard from Q that the gov’t covered up the real reason for the raid of Duncan Lemp, which was the 2 bins of BRF* cakes fruiting in his closet.

 

I also heard his girlfriend’s name is Krystle Cole, but even if none of that is true none of it would have happened if he’d been a member here and been following the top three rules that all active Mycotopia members in good standing who want to keep that standing must follow:

 

1) You must only post comments at this website and no others, and be doing so from a country that respects freedom of speech and with your parents’ permission (if applicable)

 

2) You must never grow more than a few mushrooms at a time in some bins in your closet, and

 

3) You are strictly forbidden from ever doing anything else that might in any way be sketchier than either of the above or associating with anyone who does, whether knowingly or not.

So obviously this thread was posted for academic purposes only since none of it is applicable to us or anyone we know, or wherever we may go or are likely to go in the future.

* BRF stands for Brown Rice Freedom


Edited by TVCasualty, 27 October 2020 - 07:20 AM.

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Posted 28 October 2020 - 07:48 PM

I looked into Duncan Lemp's case a bit deeper since I'm generally opposed to being shot in my sleep or others being shot in theirs, and I saw a lot of references to him being a "martyr," which is kind of ridiculous. The idea that he’s a martyr is an insult to actual martyrs for real causes. That guy was more like a Darwin Award winner.
 
What’s the current trendy reply to stuff like this? IIRC it’s “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” and being an avowed member of an anti-gov’t group while sleeping at the address on file with the very government his group was opposed to is a total noob/poseur kind of fuckup.

And FWIW, it’s hard to say if McKenna actually died peacefully since he died of a brain tumor, but if it was peaceful regardless then it might be because after his problems stemming from being wanted by both the FBI and Interpol for international hash smuggling it’s been speculated that he started working for the Feds. It’s kind of unusual to go directly from being a fugitive to the psychedelic lecture circuit without any apparent legal repercussions in between.

Then there’s this quote of his, which was probably the source of all the speculation:

 

“And certainly when I reached La Chorerra in 1971 I had a price on my head by the FBI, I was running out of money, I was at the end of my rope. And then THEY recruited me and said, "you know, with a mouth like yours there's a place for you in our organization". And I've worked in deep background positions about which the less said the better. And then about 15 years ago they shifted me into public relations and I've been there to the present.”

 

McKenna was also quite a trickster, and liked to put people on so there’s more than one way to interpret the above paragraph depending on how well one knows his writings and talks. His accent on the word “they” suggests spice elves more than Federal Agents, and I suspect he enjoyed the ambiguity (in the audio recording of the interview his peculiar emphasis on the word "they" is obvious).


 






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