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[YoshiTrainer]

Ovoids from my favorite uncle are jumping from grain to maple.

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[Arathu]

How'd I miss that????........ not paying attention......my bad....

 

Nice......

 

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[YoshiTrainer]

More progress on the ovoid -> maple, soon will be going into a bag of maple with a scoop or two of bagged soil added. I have some azurescens on agar that I might drop a couple sterile maple chips into. Hopefully Serbica will follow behind along with subaeruginosa and gymnopilus purpuratus.

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[Ferather]

I would suggest you treat Azures like Oysters, not kidding, it will visibly grow out like an oyster, you wont even tell it apart until it bruises or fruits.

 

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It went from weak, not doing much on plain wood, to vigorous, dominant and prolific. Biological efficiency goes up considerably.

 

https://mycotopia.ne...30#entry1505129

 

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Here is some additional data on some side-by-sides: https://mycotopia.ne...31#entry1505378

 

I can tell you the Azures did not get that good because of paper pellets alone.

Edited by Ferather, 20 April 2023 - 09:09 PM.

[Ferather]

https://en.wikipedia...i/Mycelial_cord

 

 

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White rot fungi (davidmoore.org.uk)

 

 

Acid-free paper - Wikipedia

 

Edited by Ferather, 21 April 2023 - 06:12 PM.

[Ferather]

You can Google more images (two provided below), however wood is around 50% carbon (cellulose, phenols, other) and around 0.2% nitrogen (or less).

To get 1% N, that's x5, so 50 x 5 = 250, 0.2 x 5 = 1, 250:1 [C:N], if it where 0.1% nitrogen that's x 10 (0.1 x 10 =1).

 

The most common value for composing is around 30-25:1 [C:N] ratio. If I added 0.8% to the 0.2% I get 1, and therefore 50:1.

 

@100g, 48% would be 48g of carbon, if that helps with recipes.

 

https://www.semantic...90348c/figure/1

https://www.research..._tbl4_349155434

 

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Here is the recipe I use (some of you wont like the brands), regardless 'primary fungi' can use the basic forms of nitrogen (and other nutrients), to produce organic materials.

An example is to use an ammoniacal nitrogen source and a carbon source, to produce protein biosynthesis, with the end result being an organic protein.

 

Substrate: 100g dry paper pellets, 4g MG soluble nutrients, 0.4g YN soluble nutrients, 350g water.

 

Edited by Ferather, 22 April 2023 - 03:38 PM.

[Ferather]

Forgot to mention, cellulose (carbon) is complex and slow to release (although the process speeds up the more active enzymes per gram of cellulose there is), so ideally to start a culture at a good rate (a few days) use starch based spawn (grain, seed).

In this case its not for the macro-micro nutrients (nitrogen, potassium, so on), but for the rapid decay starch (carbon), although obviously the nutritional nature of the grain-seed certainly helps (the substrate is nutritional).

 

Around 2-4% spawn is needed to accelerate the start time of the culture: https://mycotopia.ne...32#entry1505916

 

 

Extra noteworthy info: https://en.wikipedia...Gluconeogenesis | example, phenols > sugars.

 

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Also, be careful what you add to paper pellets, my recipe is called WL-Tek, if you add wood, the soluble phenols (carbon) + soluble nutrients = high chance of mold/other lignicolous mycelium germinating.

If you intend to use a product that contains starch-sugars to enrich the base media (wood, paper, coir, other), you will need to be aseptic (sterile), same reason but now starch-sugar.

Edited by Ferather, 23 April 2023 - 02:11 PM.

[Arathu]

 

 

Spring.....

 

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Edited by Arathu, 23 May 2023 - 06:38 PM.

[Ferather]

Cloning? Spores?

[tuftygrasses]

With permission  Container Growing Experiments.pdf   4.94MB   14 downloads

[Arathu]

Excellent work tufty! You've done very well indeed.....AWESOME!

Great document...it augments/covers the topic very nicely. Again.....great job.....

Do enjoy.....

@Ferather.......spores for sure....

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Edited by Arathu, 25 May 2023 - 05:10 PM.

[ItBeBasidia]

Excellent writeup and excellent results Tufty!!

[tuftygrasses]

Not mine. Just shared with the ladies permission. She dosnt have a topia account. She shared it on fb but those groups get taken down quite a lot. More permanent here :)

[Arathu]

 

O-Clump.....

 

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[Arathu]

 

 

 

Sometimes......ovoids look like this......

 

They do love it underneath a diffuse canopy of green.....rain brings it all to life....

 

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[Arathu]

Single.....

 

 

to...

 

 

Twins....

 

 

...to gregarious

 

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[Ferather]

I am going to pop this here, since I cant see a common gourmet thread other than Arathu's thread. Growing Mushrooms: https://www.mediafir...ng_Mushrooms.7z

It's written fairly generically, so it applies to gourmet and other lignicolous (wood loving) fungi, including actives. Includes links and images.